01/16/2010 - Annual NCC Autocross Meeting

[Biggins]

So if I show up with my '82 Dodge Conquest with about eight mild modifications who is going to tell me what SCCA class I'm in for PAX purposes?

My thinking is that if you're running an '82 Conquest or any other oddball car, you'll either a) already know your car or b) just throw them into the relevant catch-all ST or Stock class.

There is a pretty detailed list out there each year for most everything that would show up at an SCCA event. Have the list at registration or a link to the list so people can figure it out themselves.

I understand the need to accommodate other makes, but this is a BMW club, and I think two classes is plenty: use PAX to determine standings or leave as-is. FYI, I may very possibly be running in non-BMW class.

I liked the pre-2009 classing system, but I still think we need to stay consistent year-to-year.

[mcoupemindy]

My thinking is that if you're running an '82 Conquest or any other oddball car, you'll either a) already know your car or b) just throw them into the relevant catch-all ST or Stock class.

There is a pretty detailed list out there each year for most everything that would show up at an SCCA event. Have the list at registration or a link to the list so people can figure it out themselves.

I understand the need to accommodate other makes, but this is a BMW club, and I think two classes is plenty: use PAX to determine standings or leave as-is. FYI, I may very possibly be running in non-BMW class.

I liked the pre-2009 classing system, but I still think we need to stay consistent year-to-year.

Pre-2009 rules were hard to understand for newcomers. Honestly, the 2009 rules changed very little from what existed in 2008 and prior other than the elimination of the either or rules (confusing).

The thing to note is that a overwhelming majority of participants noted that they were happy (no modifications needed) to our 2009 rules according to the survey published to all participants.

Just food for thought ...

[Biggins]

Pre-2009 rules were hard to understand for newcomers. Honestly, the 2009 rules changed very little from what existed in 2008 and prior other than the elimination of the either or rules (confusing).

The thing to note is that a overwhelming majority of participants noted that they were happy (no modifications needed) to our 2009 rules according to the survey published to all participants.

Just food for thought ...

I was one of those, and that's partly my point. I don't think the BMW rules should be touched (except for allowing fixed back seats in Tuner). The rules/classes aren't going to make me stop autocrossing.

I'm fine with the non-BMW classes how they are right now, but it's clear that a stock Hyundai Accent on snow tires has no equalizer-factor to a Corvette on OEM tires. I'm perfectly fine with that, but I'm assuming some people running in non-BMW classes would want to have some type of factor to determine if they're on par with the Corvette. That's why I'm suggesting PAX.