Virginia BMWCCA License Plate?

[mcoupemindy]

Carolyn E., my POC with the DMV informed me of the reverse scenario as did my local legislative representatives in Vienna/Arlington...

1. Have your local representative commit to sponsor the bill to be sponsored/voted on as state legislation.

2. Collect the needed paperwork within 30 days to be turned into the DMV after the representation has signed on.

If you've heard different from Carolyn or have experience with this, please feel free to get in contact with me.

Your #2 statement says everything ...

If you don't collect money and applications before getting legislature approval, how do you plan on having everything submitted within the 30 day period? You must have everything ready to go before legislature to make it work.

I honestly don't think that you're going to find 350 people willing to front $35.00 for a finished product to arrive no earlier than 18 months from collection date. (BTW ... This means collecting the money and creating an escrow account)

You can continue on whatever route you want, but as of this point, our chapter's board has decided to not support this project.

[mtnstpr]

30 days, those would be the state of Virginia, government 30 days... it's not the library over there... We are raising $ for the common wealth, cut off dates are soft...

Price upfront would be $10 or $20 for a 6 letter combination...
Agreed, higher prices $25/$35 for profit was decided against by the chapter when I took over in Dec 07

MD took 2+ years to get their plate, VA would be faster because...

In my whole seven months working on this list, I've noticed different groups interested in this plate. Either, I want this plate last week or I'm not interested. Or people interested in this plate.

I'm sorry to hear everyone who has worked on this project so far has not been fast enough to meet your deadline for the chapter support...

[Wildcats64]

I was at Board meeting on 7-09-08, where the Virginia BMW CLub license issue was discussed. The problems including getting a Virginia State Delegate to sponsor the plate along with having at least 350 PAID applications before you could even get to a House vote. The time frame of 18 months to 24 months before you would possibly ever see a license appeared to be unreasonable. In addition, nobody wanted to volunteer to take on the task of coordinating license requests or having to deal with the Virginia politicans. Hell, they can't even get the tax issue for road repairs/improvements resolved. I am sure that our license application would be on the bottom of the pile.

Dennis Follett

[vagabond]

I'm sort of suprised we don't have enough ego to wait out 18 months and some legislative red tape to have awesome long-term exposure for the club. Politicians have to wait 'til they're dead to get their name on a bridge- 18 months is well within all of our lifetimes! If there are 350 'hard core' members (not those who join for a year and fade away) in the entire Commonwealth, I don't think it would be that hard to part with the dollar equivalent of 3 cocktails plus tip in an escrow account until we get this through. Or, you can pay more taxes and move to Maryland.

[JRansom]

I don't live in Virginia, and if I did would be frustrateed to not be able to get plates, and that being said I find it interesting that it is cheaper and easier to get a personalized plate than an organizational plate.

I think it worthy of the time of the chapters covering Virginia and the National office to come to a joint meeting of the minds and correspond to each and every member of the legislature to
A. express concern over the process,
B. ask for asssistance in making this happen,
and maybe even looking for a compromise with the state by escalating this to the highest levels of the Motor Vehicle Administration and elected government.
While it is no small amount of money once collected, it is in reality a drop in one's personal cash bucket, compared to the cost of one's car and the gas to keep it on the road.
I think we should re-think this, start the collection process and make it happen.
And lastly, if you are willing to complete the application today and once approved not follow through...consider it your loss. If the club can't make it happen in 24 months...consider it your dues payment three years out.

Just my two cents, but not neccesarily the correct two cents.

[1996 328ti]

I think it worthy of the time of the chapters covering Virginia and the National office to come to a joint meeting of the minds and correspond to each and every member of the legislature to . . .

National office?

[Car54]

I believe the board consider a committee to get this back on track?

It sounds like people are so interested, that they'd volunteer to see this through. Those kind of people, unfortunately, weren't at the 7-9-08 board meeting. If this is just internet mumbo jumbo that's one thing, but if people are willing to start using real names and volunteering real time, I think the board would support the effort.

Can we get some commitment of volunteers and people to show presence at next month's meeting? Maybe a couple of checks and some signatures could persuade them.

[chicane]

according to my count, we have well over 400 people interested in the plate. when i first recieved the interested party list back in december it had around 350 interested and is now above 400.

the last hurdle i've run into is down in richmond, my local legislator is not interested in sponsoring this plate on the upcoming winter balot. i'm upto numerous calls not returned with my legislator and he definitely does not have my vote in the next election.

my guess is to move forward is we'll need a legislator outside of northern virginia to sponsor our plate. i've talked to representation in arlington and vienna. below is the link to find your legislator, house or senate, doesn't matter. get in contact and tell them we met all the other requirements for a new plate, now we need a legislator to sponser in richmond.

i can still volunteer to help collect the paper work and maintain the list is still open.

any thoughts, suggestions, or to just let go, let me know....

Click here to find out who your legislator is http://legis.state.va.us/ click on Who's My Legislator.

I know we have enough interested people (and growing) that is a non-issue. Also, the procedure calls for showing that you have the requisite 350 interested people FIRST, then you get the legislator to put it up for vote get approval THEN you collect the money and send it to DMV. So honestly I don't see what the problem is here other then an uncooperative legislator of which there are many. And who won't sponsor a BMW license plate it is hardly controversial. I'll check with mine.

[chicane]

Carolyn E., my POC with the DMV informed me of the reverse scenario as did my local legislative representatives in Vienna/Arlington...

1. Have your local representative commit to sponsor the bill to be sponsored/voted on as state legislation.

2. Collect the needed paperwork within 30 days to be turned into the DMV after the representation has signed on.

If you've heard different from Carolyn or have experience with this, please feel free to get in contact with me.

+2. You are correct FIRST you get the interested parties, get the plate voted on, THEN you collect the money and send the applications to DMV.

[chicane]

I'm sort of suprised we don't have enough ego to wait out 18 months and some legislative red tape to have awesome long-term exposure for the club. Politicians have to wait 'til they're dead to get their name on a bridge- 18 months is well within all of our lifetimes! If there are 350 'hard core' members (not those who join for a year and fade away) in the entire Commonwealth, I don't think it would be that hard to part with the dollar equivalent of 3 cocktails plus tip in an escrow account until we get this through. Or, you can pay more taxes and move to Maryland.

x1000. So what if it takes 18 months? That will make the plate that much sweeter when I bolt it onto my ///M3. No one is asking NCC to shell out some big expenditure for this venture. Honestly what has NCC specifically contributed for this venture, besides the work of individual NCC members?

[mcoupemindy]

I believe the board consider a committee to get this back on track?

It sounds like people are so interested, that they'd volunteer to see this through. Those kind of people, unfortunately, weren't at the 7-9-08 board meeting. If this is just internet mumbo jumbo that's one thing, but if people are willing to start using real names and volunteering real time, I think the board would support the effort.

Can we get some commitment of volunteers and people to show presence at next month's meeting? Maybe a couple of checks and some signatures could persuade them.

There was no representation for the last 5 months ...

Get a committee together with a SOLID ACTION PLAN and DATE SPECIFIC OUTLINE and I'm sure that it could be supported 100%. The board meeting dates and locations are posted on this site every month - there is NO REASON why a committe cannot attend. Better yet, if you go through with this, I will take atleast one plate myself.

When creating this action plan, please be ready to provide exactly which information you need to collect at which stage. I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to set a real webpage up to support you. To do this, I need to see EXACTLY what you need to collect - please bring examples and lists of information. I WILL help you manage the data and help you to success. This project in my opinion could be done, but we need real help instead of internet comments.

[Car54]

Amen!

That's what I was trying to say.

[Jim Dunlap]

I'm the one that spoofted us for this being so tough to do, using as my reference point the fact that the Surfrider Foundation folks (of which I'm one) have them. I did some checking. Turns out they had to jump though all of the same hoops described here and there above in this string, and then some. And, it was the Virginia Beach chapter (yes, there are a ton of surfers over there) that pushed it though. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going back outside to the doghouse.

[chicane]

I'm the one that spoofted us for this being so tough to do, using as my reference point the fact that the Surfrider Foundation folks (of which I'm one) have them. I did some checking. Turns out they had to jump though all of the same hoops described here and there above in this string, and then some. And, it was the Virginia Beach chapter (yes, there are a ton of surfers over there) that pushed it though. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going back outside to the doghouse.

Thanks for fessing up. We are not going thru any more hoops than anyone else who have applied for one of these things. It is not costing the chapter anything other than a few hours here and there by certain members. IMHO it is a worthwhile endeavor.

[Johntee540]

Thanks for fessing up. We are not going thru any more hoops than anyone else who have applied for one of these things. It is not costing the chapter anything other than a few hours here and there by certain members. IMHO it is a worthwhile endeavor.

I am still in for 3 cars maybe 4 if this goes forward. Hey - Lets get VADMV to show us a little BMW love! - JT