06/13/2010 - Street Survival - Dulles, VA

The first Street Survival of 2010 will be held at ADESA on June 13. Note that this is a Sunday.
The initial set of dates given us by ADESA all conflicted with DEs or autocrosses. Rather than push the event into the Summer, we've decided to try a Sunday event.

Gordon

For Street Survival informatoin and registration, please see the BMW CCA Foundation website at http://www.streetsurvival.org/school-schedule.php

Greg

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Originally Posted by vjmvjmvjm

There are a lot of cars that aren't listed as tested. For example, no BMW passenger cars are listed for 1998 through 2001. Does that mean they are disqualified? But a 1993 Toyota Camry is okay?

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Are Toyotas built in the US? Maybe it's a bid to buy 'merican?

Edit: That is for SUVs and Minivans. I couldn't find if an X3, X5 or X6 was listed.

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Originally Posted by 1996 328ti

Are Toyotas built in the US? Maybe it's a bid to buy 'merican?

Edit: That is for SUVs and Minivans. I couldn't find if an X3, X5 or X6 was listed.

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BMW SAVs all have DSC so should be compliant. This whole area is new to the program this year. Based upon an incident last year with HCG vehicle that rolled. In the past we had guidance about HCG vehicles and the exercises that could not be used for them. Getting more stringent this year.

Chuck

My older son participated in Street Survival and the chapter's Highway Safety School/car control clinic in our '85 325e - no ABS, DSC or airbags.
Younger son is 15 next month - can he participate in an '85 535i (ABS, but no DSC or airbags) once he receives his learner's permit?

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Originally Posted by John in VA

My older son participated in Street Survival and the chapter's Highway Safety School/car control clinic in our '85 325e - no ABS, DSC or airbags.
Younger son is 15 next month - can he participate in an '85 535i (ABS, but no DSC or airbags) once he receives his learner's permit?

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What is the minimum and maximum age a student can be to participate in a Tire Rack Street Survival® school?
Licensed or permitted drivers, ages 16 to 21 are allowed in the program.

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Originally Posted by 1996 328ti

What is the minimum and maximum age a student can be to participate in a Tire Rack Street Survival® school?
Licensed or permitted drivers, ages 16 to 21 are allowed in the program.

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Steven,
I understood the age & permit requirements, but didn't know if our car was now unwelcome!

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Originally Posted by John in VA

Steven,
I understood the age & permit requirements, but didn't know if our car was now unwelcome!

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John,

Sign him up when he's ready. That car is not a problem.

Rafael

Rafael.
Let's hope it survives the initial driving experience/lessons & permitting process! Maybe the hours (or actually years) of PS2 and XBox will prove to have helped his hand/eye coordination!!

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Originally Posted by John in VA

Rafael.
Let's hope it survives the initial driving experience/lessons & permitting process! Maybe the hours (or actually years) of PS2 and XBox will prove to have helped his hand/eye coordination!!

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It was Grand Theft Auto right? You should be fine then. If the car catches on fire, you just carjack another one. (Beating up the police officer on the way is only sometimes mandatory.)

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Originally Posted by mcoupemindy

it was grand theft auto right? You should be fine then. If the car catches on fire, you just carjack another one. (beating up the police officer on the way is only sometimes mandatory.)

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lol

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Originally Posted by pseto

lol

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Yea, that's only funny when it's not your kid in your car!!!

John, sorry, in my opinion, all that "practice time" will hurt since there's no reset button on the real BMW.

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Originally Posted by Rafgar

Yea, that's only funny when it's not your kid in your car!!!

John, sorry, in my opinion, all that "practice time" will hurt since there's no reset button on the real BMW.

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Do you think kids can't tell the difference between games and real life? There is every reason to believe that playing video games helps build driving skills. The F1 teams spend millions on simulators for the drivers. (so do flight schools and the military) I used to play games before autocrosses to get my mind in gear and I am playing Road America often to learn the track in anticipation of Oktoberfest. The games out now are really really good and do a great job of reinforcing vision and visualizing things you can't see but need to be aware of. Switching between different games helps players learn to adapt to new inputs and demands. I have had students that claimed to be at their 1st driving event, and they could demonstrate the proper line in no time. When complimented, I learn from them that they play lots of driving games.

Still, there is a difference between shouting obscenities at Gears of War and logging serious laptime with iRacing. I don't think anyone is arguing anything of importance here. :)

i like how active this chapter is and all the events that are available in the area. will be signing up for this as well.

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Originally Posted by Yan-3

i like how active this chapter is and all the events that are available in the area. will be signing up for this as well.

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This program is only for our younger drivers (ages 16-21), so if you fit into this category, register ASAP.

This was a really great event! Even my normally less than enthusiastic 19 year old daughter had a GREAT time! She's still talking about it today - way to go guys!!! I hope the chapter is able to schedule more Street Survival events this year. I was really impressed with how well the school was run - the classroom training was excelent and had a lot of very useful information. My daughter was really impressed with the in car instructors as well. Just a really super job - thanks again to everyone who contributed / worked the event!

-Tom Rogers

any pics or writeups from last weekend's SS?

any more feedback?