NCC DE at Summit - June 25-26
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OwnedbyDuncan
Banned
Why not call the Registar
Have you tried calling?
Dave Apker
Have you tried calling?
Dave Apker
1996 328ti
Administrator
Doug is out of town at the moment.
If your postmark was the first week of registration I'd say you are in.
I don't believe they have set the number of students able to attend yet.
I expect it to be full though. Full is usually 60.
If your postmark was the first week of registration I'd say you are in.
I don't believe they have set the number of students able to attend yet.
I expect it to be full though. Full is usually 60.
I got an email back. I am now 0 for 4 years in getting into an NCC DE event.
This time it was somewhat my fault, or at least work's fault, in that I was supposed to be out of town for the dates, then things got shuffled and I was in town. So late application.
Not a big deal, but not sure why I keep NCC membership.
Also, just bought a race car, so will be spending more time racing than doing DEs. MUCH more fun. May even upgrade my license from Regional to National.
This time it was somewhat my fault, or at least work's fault, in that I was supposed to be out of town for the dates, then things got shuffled and I was in town. So late application.
Not a big deal, but not sure why I keep NCC membership.
Also, just bought a race car, so will be spending more time racing than doing DEs. MUCH more fun.
May even upgrade my license from Regional to National.
1996 328ti
Administrator
Dave or Doug? Whatcha need? And anyone who registered the first couple days of the registration period is most likely in. We do not want to post names to a webpage but maybe we can just post first name, last initial and car?NoSoup4U said:
1996 328ti said:
Whomever is listed on the signup page (i.e, if you have questions). From a previous post, I signed up for the HSS. I could not make it b/c my car was not completed ... So, I lost out my registration fee. That is fine.
I wanted to sign up for this driving school event; but, learning my lesson from the first time, I did not want to sign up and lose $350. A lot of times, these places are like ... yes it will be ready; but, two days before hand will tell you, sorry, something came up -- we could not complete it. The car is at Kearney's racing right now ...
I sent an email immediately after the HSS was finished to find out if I should sign up for the NCC DE -- no response. I called: no response. Sent two follow-up emails: no response. I believe it is Doug Apker, or Dave Apker, I forget right now.
I know that it says NO refunds ... but, I wanted to see if I could at least roll the money into the next NCC event in case the car was not completed by the school.
I am disappointed since I inquired WELL BEFORE registration opened -- I could have sent in my registration immediately that day. Plus, I wanted to also see if it was okay to have a co-driver for my vehicle. So, there were a couple of important questions -- but, I've received no response.
1996 328ti
Administrator
I understand this is a problem. Doug Verner is balancing work, family and the role as registrar. Timely responses are important. If you don't get a response in a reasonable amount of time, post something here or email me.NoSoup4U said:
I don't think we would have transferred the registration fee towards another school. Unfortunately we can not fill a spot once the instructor assignments are complete. I would like to think we would consider refunds or transferring fees on a case by case basis. If there was a family issue that would be one thing, but not having the car ready is not cause for a refund or transfer. You can always email anyone of the board and we'd discuss it. Anyone is welcomed to attent the meetings. They are the 2nd Wed of the month, usually in Oakton.
We need to get the tech form posted. For now anyone is free to use the sample form on the website. I realize the system we have is far from perfect. I'd be happy to hear of any suggestions.
Thanks Steven for your response. Don't get me wrong, this is not just a bytch fest. I would be willing to help Doug/Dave out if he would like. In fact, I offered this in an email to him as well. I understand he has to balance a lot of things -- I completely understand; but, I even offered to assist him. Ask Pete or Eric, with autocross, even though I am not officially involved, I'll do whatever I can to assist. Call up places, get contracts, etc. If Doug/Dave would like, I could be the point of contact for everyone and only contact him for emergency type of stuff ... I could compile the entrant and wait list, answer questions, send out packets, etc.
I understand that there is no refund -- but, if I am asking ahead of time "knowing" that it might be possible that the car is not ready, I would think that my situation would fall under the "case" by case basis to allow me to roll the money into the next event. Plus, I do not need an instructor, if that helps the matter any
p.s. -- I do not want to be "officially" involved, since I do not like to commit things unless I can do 100% ... and I can't guarantee that; but, I would love to assist in any manner to ease Doug/Dave's burden, if he would like.
I understand that there is no refund -- but, if I am asking ahead of time "knowing" that it might be possible that the car is not ready, I would think that my situation would fall under the "case" by case basis to allow me to roll the money into the next event. Plus, I do not need an instructor, if that helps the matter any
p.s. -- I do not want to be "officially" involved, since I do not like to commit things unless I can do 100% ... and I can't guarantee that; but, I would love to assist in any manner to ease Doug/Dave's burden, if he would like.
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1996 328ti
Administrator
I realize it is not a bytch fest. I'd rather discuss things here than privately.
First, Dave is not involved with the driving school.
Contracts and track contact is by Adil. Doug handles the registration.
He's only done it for one school so far and had to develop his own system pretty much.
The registration data is collected and needs to be exported in a certain way to our school's master database. That part is involved but we are getting the hang of it. Getting the registration data into the database is cumbersome and is generally done it one big batch. For next year we can automate the process. I created a system we use for the VIR school that is working out pretty well. A person pre-registers and the data goes straight into the database via email. That will save an enormous amount of time. There is hope. But it won't happen until next year.
I guess what we really need is a way for better communication.
As far as refunds or considerations, Doug does not do that. If anything he would refer it to the board. He goes by the admission policy and when there is a question he asks us.
BTW- All students get instructors. Otherwise it would be a lapping day.
First, Dave is not involved with the driving school.
Contracts and track contact is by Adil. Doug handles the registration.
He's only done it for one school so far and had to develop his own system pretty much.
The registration data is collected and needs to be exported in a certain way to our school's master database. That part is involved but we are getting the hang of it. Getting the registration data into the database is cumbersome and is generally done it one big batch. For next year we can automate the process. I created a system we use for the VIR school that is working out pretty well. A person pre-registers and the data goes straight into the database via email. That will save an enormous amount of time. There is hope. But it won't happen until next year.
I guess what we really need is a way for better communication.
As far as refunds or considerations, Doug does not do that. If anything he would refer it to the board. He goes by the admission policy and when there is a question he asks us.
BTW- All students get instructors.
Otherwise it would be a lapping day.
1996 328ti
Administrator
I hope to post something later (Tues night).Pete said:
Steven -
Then my question to you is this. Can I send in my information and be put on the waitlist in the hopes of getting in. One member signed up, that is a committee member of NCC, based on the belief that I also would attend. I did not send in my registration the first available day b/c I did not want to lose the $350.00. My car is being built to race in CCA in IP. However, a lot of things are out of my control. For instance, my car sat three weeks near Baltimore, Md without a single thing being done to it. I had to take it and bring it to the cage-builder.
From there, I need to get it up to baltimore again. I was told he can do it in "a couple of hours" -- makes you wonder why it sat for three weeks, ehh? But, that is assuming the cage builders can complete the car. They are doing the cage, door panels, kill switch, fire suppression system, racing seats, custom brackets, etc. They said they "think" it might be done in time for the NCC; but, being a business of course, they said they could not guarantee it.
So, can I send in my registration in hopes of getting in ... and, if I do get in and I am not able to attend, can I roll that money into the next event?
Then my question to you is this. Can I send in my information and be put on the waitlist in the hopes of getting in. One member signed up, that is a committee member of NCC, based on the belief that I also would attend. I did not send in my registration the first available day b/c I did not want to lose the $350.00. My car is being built to race in CCA in IP. However, a lot of things are out of my control. For instance, my car sat three weeks near Baltimore, Md without a single thing being done to it. I had to take it and bring it to the cage-builder.
From there, I need to get it up to baltimore again. I was told he can do it in "a couple of hours" -- makes you wonder why it sat for three weeks, ehh? But, that is assuming the cage builders can complete the car. They are doing the cage, door panels, kill switch, fire suppression system, racing seats, custom brackets, etc. They said they "think" it might be done in time for the NCC; but, being a business of course, they said they could not guarantee it.
So, can I send in my registration in hopes of getting in ... and, if I do get in and I am not able to attend, can I roll that money into the next event?
1996 328ti
Administrator
I have not seen the student list yet. I believe the first 60 who registered are in. I don't know how many are on the wait list. Are we still talking about the June school? Besides, that registration is closed. It is too late to be added to the wait list anyway. The August school opens up June 17.
BTW- Anyone who registers and doesn't get in we simply tear up their check. This is one reason we still like accepting checks for payment.
BTW- Anyone who registers and doesn't get in we simply tear up their check. This is one reason we still like accepting checks for payment.
I sent in an application but moved to a new place at the end of May. I sent Doug an email with my new address, but received no response. I submitted my application kind of late so chances are I didn't get in, but I would still like to know so that I'm not sitting in my room twiddling my thumbs that weekend.
1996 328ti said:
Thanks Steven. I am a bit disappointed though since I inquired WELL before the registration date even opened up. I actually tried to follow procedures and regulations and prevent what happened to me last time re: the HSS and I am penalized for it, not b/c of my actions; but, because of the inaction of another.
Is the registrar going to be present at the next NCC meeting. If so, can you please give details on the meeting location, time, etc. Thank you.
1996 328ti
Administrator
Your application was received 5/13. The registration period was April 22 - May 20. You are on the wait list. It doesn't look good. Your address change has been noted.Phat Ham said: