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andrewgoldin
12-03-2013, 04:53 PM
So there I was, all set to visit a dealer to check out the GT with my "build your own" specs in-hand, when my wife issued a new "requirement". Namely, that our two dogs be transported separately from the humans in seats. Her sister has a "sport wagon" with which she seems satisfied and meets the 'transport dogs separately' requirement, it's just that I'm not excited about getting a station wagon. A check of specifications of the two vehicles on bmwusa.com indicates that the new GT has more headroom for passengers seated in the back seats and what appears to be a couple inches of more storage space, but it's hard to say by looking at the diagrams online. I plan to check out both models at a dealer within the next week or two, however I am curious -- what's the experience of club members with the "sport wagon" ?

My only exposure to the wagon was on a club tour, when we pulled over to help out the couple stranded by the side of the road in their "sport wagon", hmmm...

andrewgoldin
12-03-2013, 04:57 PM
I may have begun to answer my own question, as the introductory sheet lays out the differences: http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/showthread.php?8110-The-All-New-BMW-3-Series-Gran-Turismo

My question remains: what's been the experience of club members with the sport wagon?

Thanks!

vjmvjmvjm
12-03-2013, 05:33 PM
The 3-series wagons are very similar to the sedans. The wagon adds a little bit of weight over a sedan (a few hundred pounds depending upon the generation), but generally handles and performs like the sedans. Everything else, including reliability, should be about the same. The difference is the extra storage space. We have an E46/3 (325iT), and are very happy with our choice.

The GT appears to be an oversized 3-series, while the sport wagon is just a three series without a trunk.

Vic - we don't need no stinkin' trunks

andrewgoldin
12-05-2013, 08:54 PM
Hi vjmvjmvjm,
I went for a test drive before noticing your post and my impressions from the test drive are same as yours. I'll even go as far as to say I'm both pleasantly surprised by the pep of the sport wagon (note I'm no longer using quotes for "sport") and disappointed by the GT.

For my test drive, I drove the only wagon they had on the lot -- 328d (diesel). My, what a surprise. As you wrote, handling characteristics and acceleration are comparable to any 3-series sedan and favorable overall.

The Gran Turismo 328i xDrive AWD (4 cylinder) was my second test drive. If I recall correctly, it's the same engine as in my Z4 4-banger, with which I'm quite satisfied. As some of the online reviews say, you really need to put the car in Sport mode to get much acceleration or performance out of the vehicle. Even in sport mode, the car drove more like a luxury car than a performance car. Again, not a surprise considering the size and weight of the vehicle. The sales rep (Percy Covington, who I enjoyed talking with) stated that the 3 series GT is based on the 5 series chassis. The drive of the vehicle seems to support that assertion. Again, it's not that the car is bad, as control at high speed was consistent with the brand, it's just that I found the performance to be somewhat disappointing. The drive reminded me of a 5 or 6 series, and is not really what I'm looking for.

The data sheets say the GT has somewhat more headroom for the rear seat passengers and a bit more cargo space in the back than the wagon. I didn't really notice all that much of a difference. The slope of the rear window on the GT seems like it would limit the usefulness of the cargo compartment, but in the absence of actually using it, it's difficult to say there's any impact.

The other pleasant surprise I had (with both vehicles) was the rear-view camera, with stadia line overlays, and proximity sensors. I've driven other cars with similar features, but BMW's implementation is superior, in my opinion. The stadia lines overlay on the display to show you where the car is going, and the proximity sensors give you an audible warning as you approach other objects while parking. While it doesn't seem like much, the combination of these two technologies makes vehicles so equipped much easier to park. In fact, considering the sizeable blind spots in both vehicles, I'd say that the money spent is better spent on those features than on body work (been there, done that).

Now I find myself in the curious position of spec-ing out a station (um, 'sport') wagon because I like the drive better than a 3-series. Hmm...

andrewgoldin
12-22-2013, 02:26 PM
More info:
I met with James Duerbeck at Fairfax BMW. I used him for the purchase of my 2008 Z4, which I intend to use as a trade-in, and he is mentioned on the forum as a "track guy" (this I can verify as true). He claims that, in general, 3-series performance is much influenced by the "line" (sport, luxury, etc) than other factors and that the 3 series GT is in fact based on the 3 series chassis, not the 5 series. He speculated that the GT I drove earlier was probably a standard version while any 3-series is going to perform much better with the "Sport" line.
To test his theory, that evening we drove a "standard" 3 series sedan and a "sport" 3-series sedan, on the belief that a sedan and a GT are going to drive the same. I can confirm that the sport line vehicle drove much more to my liking. However, they didn't have a GT on the lot with the sport line for me to test drive, so I can't say I experienced the difference in a GT. Nonetheless, I'm probably going to be happier with the "sport" line built into my sport wagon than the default.

BOOBEAR
01-24-2014, 03:59 PM
Who doesn't love a good wagon? I wish my E39 was a touring. I'm in the opposite situation, I can't get my girlfriend to okay a SPORT wagon and I'm not a fan of SUVs. I suggest you get a z4 and enjoy a lap dog or two.