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11-15-2011, 09:08 PM
Dec 10
Winter Tour


Depart 830 am
December 10, 2011

This pie run we will try something a little different. Instead of driving to the pie spot we will start the drive from there. We will begin at Catoctin Mountain Orchard in Thurmont, MD and end at (optional) Prince Michel Winery in Madison , VA.& As always all persons are welcome to attend, whether a member or non-member (get those non-members to sign up.


Catoctin Mountain Orchard Thurmont, Va www.catoctinmountainorchard.com We have been here so many times do I really need to repeat myself. A few of us have been known to leave CMO w/ 12+ pies. CMO is a mom & pop operation specializing in homemade pies, either baked or frozen. They also have fresh fruits, preserves, jams, jellies, dressings and cider and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. YOU MUST TRY THE APPLE CIDER!!!

Note:I highly recommend ordering your pies ahead of time since we are a large group. The pies can be ordered freshly baked or frozen. Some people do bring a cooler with them to keep their pies from sliding around in the trunk, especially since we have a lot more fun driving to do. When you place your order, reference the "BMW group". The pies range in price from $8.95-$10.95. Check their site for the different types of pie.

IMPORTANT:The deadline for calling or emailing in orders for pies is Thursday, December 8th. Popular pies I like: Apple Walnut, Strawberry, Cherry Crumb, Peach, Peach Blueberry, Blueberry, Four Berry.


Next stop, Wilson Farms Meat Co., they have been a family run business for 55 years. They sell every part of the cow, lamb and pig. All meats are cut to order. This is a great opportunity to pick up some great aged meat for the holidays. Maya, the owner, is a joy to deal with and is quick witted. Don’t take her jabs seriously, she is only joking.
Wilson's is a cash only business. No checks are accepted unless you are an established customer. It is highly recommended that you place your order in advance, especially if you want a custom cut. The store front is quite small and they will keep things moving. The meat will be packaged individually wrapped and then boxed tied with butcher’s string. You will definitely need to bring a cooler. We will pass plenty of places to pick up ice. There is also a place at the Exxon station about a 1/2 mile before we get to Wilson's to pick up ice. The cut off date for ordering is December 9th. I will send order form via email if you contact me: harlemknights02@<hidden>

Lunch is a pie run favorite, The Bavarian Chef, it has been operated continuously by the Thalwitz family since its opening in 1974. Its cuisine is distinctively German and all the food is prepared onsite using Thalwitz recipes. Its recipes are sought after, but can only be discovered with the senses. When Eckhard and Bruni Thalwitz opened the Bavarian Chef in 1974, it quickly became a local favorite, renowned for its incredible portions of authentic German food and warm hospitality.

The restaurant usually opens at 4:30 on Saturdays, but the owner is willing to open early for our group. The menu for our group will be fixed with beef, chicken, pork and fish entree options, assorted sides, dessert and drinks (non-alcoholic) for $31/person including tax and gratuity. They give you so much food that you are sure to take home a doggie bag! http://www.thebavarianchef.com

From lunch, you can head to Prince Michel Winery which is about 15 minutes north of The Bavarian Chef. The tastings are complimentary at Prince Michel Winery. http://www.princemichel.com


This event offers online registration and payment through MotorsportReg.com.

Registration will be through Motorsportreg.com (http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/90254B25-F45F-8F09-2D306CDE36FE30BB)

Zchild
11-16-2011, 02:38 PM
I'm all in; looking forward to it!

cconover
11-27-2011, 07:45 PM
Just signed up, see you guys there!

pseto
12-05-2011, 11:30 AM
Bump for this Sat's Pie Run...don't forget to pre-order your pies and meat!!

josephfarran
12-06-2011, 12:23 PM
I won't be able to do the whole tour, but I'll be there to grab some pies and ride around for a little while! Bringing the Z for one last ride before the snow hits.

pseto
12-07-2011, 09:55 AM
Tomorrow is the deadline to pre-order your pies at CMO and Friday is the deadline for ordering meats at Wilson Farm.

Please order ahead of time so we can cut down the amount of time we have to wait at each location.

SpongeBob
12-12-2011, 11:28 AM
So...what happened after the tour group left the pie store and headed to Wilson Farm?

cconover
12-12-2011, 11:36 AM
We got held hostage by the cast of Deliverance :-P

tmcneish
12-12-2011, 12:33 PM
Did the Sheriff show up???

cconover
12-12-2011, 12:46 PM
Indeed. 3 or 4 Frederick County Sheriff cars arrived and cleared the whole thing up. I'm writing an article for DB about the Pie Run, and I'll include the details of the encounter in the article.

tmcneish
12-12-2011, 12:53 PM
Should be interesting reading...

roykobs
12-12-2011, 04:32 PM
So what sort of encounter are we talking about? Was this an urban vs. Suburban brawl? Were pies thrown?

pseto
12-12-2011, 04:35 PM
So what sort of encounter are we talking about? Was this an urban vs. Suburban brawl? Were pies thrown?

Luckily, all pies were saved

roykobs
12-12-2011, 04:46 PM
Well then, that's all that really matters!

tmcneish
12-12-2011, 04:47 PM
So what sort of encounter are we talking about? Was this an urban vs. Suburban brawl? Were pies thrown?


Simular to your August encounter only some folks got penned up in a driveway and were blocked in with no escape route...

lrosie89
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
No way...this has GOT to be a joke, right? Im laughing my toosh off. Too funny!

EvLwMn
12-15-2011, 01:59 PM
No joke. It was incredible. A few of us have started calling the debacle "Occupy BFE" as it was reminiscent of the occupy movement - only forced and not about wall street.

SpongeBob
12-15-2011, 07:00 PM
It was the second group of cars that was stopped by the local residents. How come no one has commented on the actions of the first group of cars, i.e. speeding or other improper driving, that caused the locals to be so highly incensed that they blocked the road?

EvLwMn
12-15-2011, 08:37 PM
Indeed it was the actions of the first group of cars that caused the ruckus with the locals, but since I was in that second group that was detained by the very upset locals, I really cannot comment on what the first group was doing. The "road" that was blocked by the "gentleman" (term used very loosely here because he acted like anything but) was actually a very long private driveway that went up the mountain and ended at someone's residence. If some idiot hadn't been lost and lead us up there the aforementioned "gentleman" wouldn't have had the opportunity to block us in.

Oh - and for the record, the idiot who lead us up there was none other than me. It was my fault we ended up there but in my own defense, I was totally unfamiliar with the roads and they weren't marked and I was, well, lost.

stock545i
12-15-2011, 08:42 PM
Sounds like you guys had quite an adventure?

EvLwMn
12-15-2011, 08:45 PM
Yes, an adventure. That's what I have been calling it when I tell people about it.

Bob
12-16-2011, 03:27 PM
So the story tells me that the 1st group was lost as well,having enraged the locals in the driveway, was there a strange looking kid with a banjo on that road?

lrosie89
12-17-2011, 05:12 PM
OH holy jeepers...I have GOT to go on the next one....sounds like quite a story....

1996 328ti
12-18-2011, 09:35 AM
OH holy jeepers...I have GOT to go on the next one....sounds like quite a story....
Guess I need to add this one. :pullover

SpongeBob
12-18-2011, 10:29 AM
I am amazed that no one from "The First Group of Cars" has joined this discussion to say - Where they drove (did they turn into the wrong driveway) - How they were driving - Any children or pedestrians near the road - etc. This is certainly the missing piece of the story.

EvLwMn
12-18-2011, 12:25 PM
Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the people in the first group of cars had either driven this route before or were at least familiar with the roads so they were not/did not get lost like the rest of us. It seems that they had no trouble figuring out where they were going so just went along to the next stop unknowing that the rest of us were lost. No one from the first group of cars knew of the situation until one of the members who were with us - the second group - called Algie to let him know what was happening.

SpongeBob
12-18-2011, 04:53 PM
Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the people in the first group of cars had either driven this route before or were at least familiar with the roads so they were not/did not get lost like the rest of us. It seems that they had no trouble figuring out where they were going so just went along to the next stop unknowing that the rest of us were lost. No one from the first group of cars knew of the situation until one of the members who were with us - the second group - called Algie to let him know what was happening.

That may be accurate about them. My question remains, "What or how were they driving in order to, so strongly, irritate the people who live in that area?" Irritate them to the point of wanting to stop other BMWs driving in the area.

EvLwMn
12-18-2011, 08:07 PM
According to what I heard from the members who walked up to where the ruckus was taking place to deal with the situation, the local people claimed the first group of cars were driving very aggressively and were "going 100 miles an hour" through their neighborhood. Well to that my question is, how does he know how fast they were going? Does he have a radar gun?

Further, I was there and saw those roads. There is no way it is humanly possible to drive down those very twisty, turny roads at "100 miles an hour". In fact not even a professional race car driver could drive that fast through there.

That said, while I was not with that group of cars as we had obviously been separated from each other, it is my opinion that they were probably driving a bit faster than they should have been.

Bob
12-19-2011, 10:05 AM
According to what I heard from the members who walked up to where the ruckus was taking place to deal with the situation, the local people claimed the first group of cars were driving very aggressively and were "going 100 miles an hour" through their neighborhood. Well to that my question is, how does he know how fast they were going? Does he have a radar gun?

Further, I was there and saw those roads. There is no way it is humanly possible to drive down those very twisty, turny roads at "100 miles an hour". In fact not even a professional race car driver could drive that fast through there.

That said, while I was not with that group of cars as we had obviously been separated from each other, it is my opinion that they were probably driving a bit faster than they should have been.

UH OH,That sounds vaguely like a challenge.I think I want some pie next year!

EvLwMn
12-19-2011, 10:22 AM
While I didn't mean it to be a challenge you can definitely take it that way if you so choose :wink:

On the other hand - you should definitely get some pie!

As an addendum to my previous post - the first group of cars was separated from the second group of cars because the first group wanted to go faster than the rest of us. However it is probable that every one of us were driving too fast - just some faster than others is all. :cool:

Oh - and regardless I would highly suggest you stay away from that neighborhood. Next time they might bring out their shotguns. Yes they were that miffed.

Bob
12-19-2011, 12:05 PM
While I didn't mean it to be a challenge you can definitely take it that way if you so choose :wink:

On the other hand - you should definitely get some pie!

As an addendum to my previous post - the first group of cars was separated from the second group of cars because the first group wanted to go faster than the rest of us. However it is probable that every one of us were driving too fast - just some faster than others is all. :cool:

Oh - and regardless I would highly suggest you stay away from that neighborhood. Next time they might bring out their shotguns. Yes they were that miffed.

Shotguns! OMG, you guys were in moonshiner's woods,they prolly thought you were gummint revenuers.

EvLwMn
12-19-2011, 01:03 PM
Yep - we were in them thar woods all right. That's why a few of us were referring to the whole thing as Occupy BFE - because we WERE in BFE!! :icon_lol:

tmcneish
12-20-2011, 09:54 AM
I'm really curious what the deputies had to say about the whole incident???

Bob
12-20-2011, 10:41 AM
I think one of the locals was yelling " Citizen's arrest, Citizen's arrest", don't know what Deputy Barney did.( Andy Griffith Show for you youngsters)

EvLwMn
12-20-2011, 11:04 AM
I honestly don't remember them having much to say at all. They arrived and one of them talked to the locals and one of them talked to our group - I guess just getting both sides of the story. I know that once they asked us if we wanted to press charges (because we were unlawfully detained and because one of the local men pushed one of our members - aka assault) - the local who was making the most of the ruckus shut up right NOW once he heard he might get hauled to jail. I wasn't close enough to hear what was happening so one of the other members will have to speak to exact conversation but I do know that the deputies came up with the deal that the locals let us go on our way and we won't press charges.

Since no one had been physically injured I think we figured we just wanted to "get the flock out" as it were.

e31
12-21-2011, 07:32 AM
I honestly don't remember them having much to say at all. They arrived and one of them talked to the locals and one of them talked to our group - I guess just getting both sides of the story. I know that once they asked us if we wanted to press charges (because we were unlawfully detained and because one of the local men pushed one of our members - aka assault) - the local who was making the most of the ruckus shut up right NOW once he heard he might get hauled to jail. I wasn't close enough to hear what was happening so one of the other members will have to speak to exact conversation but I do know that the deputies came up with the deal that the locals let us go on our way and we won't press charges.

Since no one had been physically injured I think we figured we just wanted to "get the flock out" as it were.

:icon_haha I wish I could been there...

andrewgoldin
01-01-2012, 12:06 PM
Hello all,

I was there -- in last vehicle of the second group which was "detained" by the locals. Yes, EvLwMn has got the story right. The locals (one guy in particular) was pissed that the first group of cars blew through there "at 100 mph" -- or that was the accusation. Acting out of fear for the safety of his kids -- or so he claimed -- he moved his pickup truck to block the roadway, so we couldn't get out of the driveway into which we followed the lead vehicle of the second group. He also claimed that this was the "second year in a row" that we had done that and was quite pissed off. I learned his motivations only by asking him to move his car. He refused, so I walked up the line of our cars and informed each driver as to the cause of the delay.

At that point I called Algie to let him know we were being "detained" -- credit to him and his lady for being quick to call the police. While waiting for the police to arrive, one of our members got out to talk with the guy, who at some point pushed one of our drivers. Wishing to avoid further confrontation, most of us went back to our cars and waited for the police to arrive.

The police were genuinely befuddled as to why things were close to getting out of hand. At one point, a policeman asked me and another driver what we wanted, to which we replied, "We want to leave". Policeman asked, "is that all"? To which we replied "Yes!". The locals wanted to press charges for trespassing. The police responded that since we were being held against our will, that we weren't trespassing, and that he (the local who started the incident) could also be arrested for unlawful detention. That threat from the police, plus the potential charge of assault (as mentioned above) persuaded the guy to back off and move his truck. We quickly backed down the hill and got out of there.

Let's not take that route next time :)

andrewgoldin
01-01-2012, 12:14 PM
I've finally downloaded a few pictures from my camera of the trip. 14851486

The first pic shows us lined up to drive out.
The second pic (taken first, actually) clearly shows the pickup truck blocking our egress. The individual talking with the police is the guy who blocked our way. On the right side of the picture you can see some of the people (kids in this case) who came out to watch the spectacle. Clearly this was the most exciting event to happen on the mountain that day!

SpongeBob
01-01-2012, 01:34 PM
It still amazes me that that no one from "the first group" has entered this discussion to defend their driving, or explain their actions going through this community. There seems to be nothing wrong with Algie's route and his planning of any of our tours. The fault apparently lies somewhere else.

EvLwMn
01-01-2012, 01:46 PM
It's hard to say what set the local man off that day. I'm not sure any one of us could possibly speak accurately to what the real problem was that got under his skin. Maybe the locals were bored? I mean - not much to do up there on the mountain so maybe he just wanted some excitement. Or maybe he was drinking? Really hard to tell for sure.

All speculation on my part of course.

bimmernupe
01-16-2012, 02:12 PM
I was in was in the first group of about 5-7 cars. If we were doing any excessive speeding where this took place then I need to quit my job and contact Ferrari Spa for a job on the F1 team. This road was uphill, very twisty, bumpy and barely big enough for two cars to pass. From the story I heard he was irritated that this happened last year and a few other clubs have come through that area in the past. This is not a residential areas that we think of when we think residential. Nearly all the homes sit back of the road quite a ways. When myself and the rest of the first of the group heard what happened, we pulled over, called the police and started talking about going back. A few of us started heading back. Along the way we met up with the group. We pulled over to see if everyone was ok.
We all know on every tour there is "spirited" driving no matter who is in charge of the tour. No one was doing anything out of the norm. Unless this guy had a radar gun, then he has no way of knowing how fast we were going. For all we know he heard a bunch of cars coming through and was irritated by the amount of traffic or the sound of growling exhaust (which can make a car sound like it is going faster than it actually is). From the pics it does not look as if he could see the road from his door. Again as someone else has said driving excessively fast in that area is impossible. If we were, then the second part of this story would be, "Several BMW drivers become tree ornaments".