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mcoupemindy
02-23-2009, 10:52 PM
Registration and details here: http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?view=details&id=105%3Aautox-points-event-1&option=com_eventlist&Itemid=26

mcoupemindy
03-01-2009, 08:50 AM
BUMP!

Only four weeks until the first event!!!

gbauer
03-01-2009, 03:59 PM
Registered. Looking forward to thrashing your tires (hopefully) by then!

Scany
03-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Maybe I should bring my new E36 instead :)

mcoupemindy
03-01-2009, 08:38 PM
Maybe I should bring my new E36 instead :)

You bought an e36? What, the e30 is too fast?

gbauer
03-02-2009, 07:46 AM
You bought an e36? What, the e30 is too fast?
He needed a beater to daily drive.

Scany
03-02-2009, 10:21 AM
You bought an e36? What, the e30 is too fast?

That's right! :biggrin: almost spun out in turn 6 at VIR shifting to 4th!!! Crazy horsepower!! (or it was soaking wet..)

Aiming for Spec3...we'll see if I can make it.

gbauer
03-02-2009, 04:07 PM
Maybe I should bring my new E36 instead :)
unless it's an E36/7 or E36/8 you took a step down.... :tongue:

Reach
03-02-2009, 11:05 PM
Registered and ready!

Sammyzuko
03-05-2009, 11:01 AM
The website has been redesigned this year. Is it still possible to see who is registered and which session they're running in?

mcoupemindy
03-05-2009, 11:09 AM
The website has been redesigned this year. Is it still possible to see who is registered and which session they're running in?

I'll post a list up a few times before the event.

mcoupemindy
03-07-2009, 01:37 AM
See attached for current registration list.

gbauer
03-07-2009, 07:28 AM
...just to wet some whistles...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyl5vQZS5YA

gbauer
03-07-2009, 07:31 AM
See attached for current registration list.
I might have to switch to M2.... You guys only have to people registered! I'm stuck with 8 others! :eek:

Time to re-pin those sway bars....:wink:

Reach
03-07-2009, 11:41 AM
What happened to S1 being a "very fun class"? I'm the only one registered! :(

Aside from a 1993 Miata that didn't seem to read the new class structures.

*edit* any chance you could switch me from AM to PM? Mike, 2002 M3.

mcoupemindy
03-07-2009, 12:04 PM
What happened to S1 being a "very fun class"? I'm the only one registered! :(

Aside from a 1993 Miata that didn't seem to read the new class structures.

*edit* any chance you could switch me from AM to PM? Mike, 2002 M3.

Just resubmit the registration, and I'll remove the first. No worries!

BTW ... Bogdan runs S1 too.

mcoupemindy
03-08-2009, 09:04 AM
Registration list updated! Please see attached.

I've fixed alot of classing mistakes, so please let me know if you see others.

Reach
03-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Re-submitted my registration for the afternoon, thanks.

And, good to finally see some more S1 participants! Now I don't have to go buy shocks, swaybars, and wheels to get into T1/M1. :)

mcoupemindy
03-09-2009, 11:55 AM
Updated list attached!

Reach
03-09-2009, 12:09 PM
2 more mis-registrants spotted in S1 there. (Lines 14 and 20)

mcoupemindy
03-09-2009, 11:35 PM
2 more mis-registrants spotted in S1 there. (Lines 14 and 20)

I've emailed them to correct.

ea-sport
03-10-2009, 09:17 AM
I don't know if it's a mistake or not but there is a 2006 330i in Unlimited (line 73). If it's not a mistake, can't wait to see what he has under the hood, turbocharged or supercharged E90??? :biggrin:.

mcoupemindy
03-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Here's a few pics of the facility!

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/flushwithsurface1.jpg

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/flushwithsurface2.jpg

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/flushwithsurface3.jpg

gbauer
03-10-2009, 09:02 PM
BTW: is the facility finished now? Just wondering if they polished it off yet...

mcoupemindy
03-10-2009, 10:02 PM
BTW: is the facility finished now? Just wondering if they polished it off yet...

It's getting there ...

mf44
03-11-2009, 09:00 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I always wondered what's the purpose of having those unpaved center islands. Wouldn't it be much more versatile (and safer) with those sections paved and the skid pad just one giant slab?

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I always wondered what's the purpose of having those unpaved center islands. Wouldn't it be much more versatile (and safer) with those sections paved and the skid pad just one giant slab?

It's a skidpad ... not a parking lot. That's the main reason.

What you don't see is the candy cane (race curbing) that will be going around all the edges - this should be complete by our July event there.

Other considerations are cost, water runoff, and being a multi-purpose facility.

woodym3
03-11-2009, 10:16 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I always wondered what's the purpose of having those unpaved center islands. Wouldn't it be much more versatile (and safer) with those sections paved and the skid pad just one giant slab?
I think all of these islands give the drifters defined roads for their competitions.
Like autocrossing on a kart track, you'll realize the need to dial it back just a wee bit.

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 10:27 AM
I think all of these islands give the drifters defined roads for their competitions.
Like autocrossing on a kart track, you'll realize the need to dial it back just a wee bit.

Those dirt islands don't scare me, what scares me are curbs (aka Bowie). Talk about dialing it back.

Biggins
03-11-2009, 07:33 PM
I still say we need to have a driver's school at this track too, but lay it out like NASCAR's Martinsville track.

SamB325es
03-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Is this going to be a polished slick surface like the MSPTF skid pad? Like auto-x in the rain?

My old crappy compooter don't read xls files so I hope i'm in. I'm showing up anyway.

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 09:38 PM
Is this going to be a polished slick surface like the MSPTF skid pad? Like auto-x in the rain?

My old crappy compooter don't read xls files so I hope i'm in. I'm showing up anyway.

It's actually pretty grippy now. It will polish in time, however, there's absolutely no plans to seal it.

Because drifters use the facility, they want to incorporate some slip and some grip.

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Is this going to be a polished slick surface like the MSPTF skid pad? Like auto-x in the rain?

My old crappy compooter don't read xls files so I hope i'm in. I'm showing up anyway.

And yes, to this point every who registered is in.

gbauer
03-11-2009, 09:53 PM
I still say we need to have a driver's school at this track too, but lay it out like NASCAR's Martinsville track.
In. :biggrin:

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 09:54 PM
In. :biggrin:

Convertibles are not permitted at NCC drivers school.

You = FAIL

That's why autocross is obviously superior :biggrin:

Car54
03-11-2009, 09:59 PM
VIR's skid pad is a big lot, not a ring like SPR's

Where will we paddock at SPWas?

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 10:05 PM
VIR's skid pad is a big lot, not a ring like SPR's

Where will we paddock at SPWas?

Hmm ...

Maybe the paddock that's being paved? (Too obvious I guess ...)

mcoupemindy
03-11-2009, 10:23 PM
Current entry list attached.

Car54
03-12-2009, 08:06 AM
Hmm ...

Maybe the paddock that's being paved? (Too obvious I guess ...)

That's great that there is a paddock, IDK.

mcoupemindy
03-12-2009, 08:10 AM
That's great that there is a paddock, IDK.

Ohhh .... I thought you were in the know!

The excavation will be done this week, schedule to lay stone next week, and pave the following week. So, as long as the weather cooperates, we will have a brand new paddock to use. Otherwise, I'll figure something out.

mscire2
03-12-2009, 03:58 PM
btw george should be in m2 not t2 as he has the m50 mani

gbauer
03-12-2009, 04:21 PM
btw george should be in m2 not t2 as he has the m50 mani
Nope. T2. Check again! it doesn't do THAT much...


BTW: you running your R-comps? If so, double check your class...

mcoupemindy
03-12-2009, 05:01 PM
Nope. T2. Check again! it doesn't do THAT much...


BTW: you running your R-comps? If so, double check your class...

George wins! Mark is M3, George is T2.

mcoupemindy
03-15-2009, 06:39 PM
New, updated list attached.

We have a great group already coming out! Keep spreading the word.

Car54
03-15-2009, 08:19 PM
Can we change our classing at the event or do we need to re-register?

mcoupemindy
03-15-2009, 08:22 PM
Can we change our classing at the event or do we need to re-register?

Please resubmit and I'll remove your first entry. Changing class at the event, especially with a good turnout, adds additional work to the staff the day of the event.

mcoupemindy
03-17-2009, 06:13 AM
Updated registration list attached.

mcoupemindy
03-18-2009, 11:35 AM
Just received confirmation that the paddock will be complete for our first event! :icon_danc

mcoupemindy
03-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Updated registrationn list attached!

I see I have new competition: Mr. Craig Brickner! BRING IT ON!!!

Walka
03-18-2009, 02:06 PM
Hey, i am so excited for this event the past three weeks i pulled my mr2's motor out, rebuilt it and have it running and am breaking it in to make it to this event haha.

mcoupemindy
03-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Hey, i am so excited for this event the past three weeks i pulled my mr2's motor out, rebuilt it and have it running and am breaking it in to make it to this event haha.

Scweeet!

Can't wait to see you out there and REALLY breaking in that engine while tearing it up.

mcoupemindy
03-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Scweeet!

Can't wait to see you out there and REALLY breaking in that engine while tearing it up.

Oh - and let the countdown begin ...

ONLY 11 DAYS LEFT!

gbauer
03-19-2009, 09:44 PM
Oh - and let the countdown begin ...

ONLY 10 DAYS LEFT!

fixed. :biggrin:

gbauer
03-19-2009, 09:47 PM
crap...


Day


Showers
60°F

Precip
60%

Wind: S 8 mph
Max. Humidity: 55%
UV Index: 4 Moderate
Sunrise: 7:02 AM ET
Avg. High: 58°F
Record High: 78°F (1968)


Well at least it'll put us street tire guys on even keel with those darn r-comps....

mcoupemindy
03-20-2009, 05:22 AM
Don't even look at the forecast yet. It's soooo far out, it doesn't matter.

Scany
03-20-2009, 08:44 AM
man! I gotta drive the 318 all the way out there. Should get some real nice earmuffs. Of course the Ford couldn't function more than 3000 miles before a new engine was in place.

mcoupemindy
03-20-2009, 08:48 AM
man! I gotta drive the 318 all the way out there. Should get some real nice earmuffs. Of course the Ford couldn't function more than 3000 miles before a new engine was in place.

Story ...

And you need to get some of those gun range muffs.

Scany
03-20-2009, 12:00 PM
Story ...

And you need to get some of those gun range muffs.


Supposedly a piece of a bracket by the front main seal broke off and loosened the crank, making it shave some metal. Don't know exactly, but a new engine is being installed as we speak. Two cars, both need new engines. One used and one brand new. ..and both american I'm afraid :rolleyes:

I might get it back Monday or Tuesday next week, but then i need to put 1500 miles on it before towing. Anyone need to haul something with a pickup the next two week? :)

Nick325xiT 5spd
03-20-2009, 03:22 PM
For ear protection, I really like the Sennheiser HD280 headphones. I used those to drive the race car to VIR and etc. before I blew the first engine and deregistered it. They made a long drive in a car with no interior comfortable and pleasant. Except for the lack of cruise control. I really missed that.

Car54
03-20-2009, 04:12 PM
Don't even look at the forecast yet. It's soooo far out, it doesn't matter.

Bauer, you should edit your post daily or every other day and post what the weather forecast is for that days. Summit Point is a goofy place and doesn't play by forecast rules. It could be snow or be 80 degrees...

Quick search has it 50 and rainy now.

woodym3
03-20-2009, 07:13 PM
It never got warm at Summit Point today. The middle skidpad was used for training and kept wet by a BIG water truck. Everyone was very pleased except for the distance from the Main Track paddock. The paving of the Washington Circuit paddock is a work in progress.

mcoupemindy
03-20-2009, 09:59 PM
It never got warm at Summit Point today. The middle skidpad was used for training and kept wet by a BIG water truck. Everyone was very pleased except for the distance from the Main Track paddock. The paving of the Washington Circuit paddock is a work in progress.

Thanks for the update!

I'll snap some pics when I am out there tomorrow.

mcoupemindy
03-20-2009, 10:28 PM
Current registration list attached.

mcoupemindy
03-24-2009, 06:25 AM
Updated registration list attached.

Rod
03-24-2009, 08:36 AM
What is the rule regarding side windows; is down mandated?

mcoupemindy
03-24-2009, 08:37 AM
What is the rule regarding side windows; is down mandated?

Full up or full down.

Rod
03-24-2009, 08:56 AM
^^ Excellent, thanks.

Walka
03-24-2009, 01:42 PM
What is the call on the rain forcast? it has been 50% chance and calling for showers.

are we still a go for the event reguardless?

woodym3
03-24-2009, 02:02 PM
Only lightning and hurricane force winds have been known to stop our autocrosses. Some rain helps level the playing field. Bring proper clothes for working the course in the rain.

I haven't heard of a reason windows have to be full up or full down in an autocross. What is the reason for that Jonathan?

Rod
03-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Woody, I'm really curious about your review of the skidpad. It was crazy with the different grip levels. I think an autox on a wet surface like that would be mayhem. It'll be humorous, at best, don't you think? The challenge will be to see if anybody can complete a run.

mcoupemindy
03-24-2009, 03:32 PM
Woody, I'm really curious about your review of the skidpad. It was crazy with the different grip levels. I think an autox on a wet surface like that would be mayhem. It'll be humorous, at best, don't you think? The challenge will be to see if anybody can complete a run.

It's no more slick than a normal surface in the wet. If it rains, it will reward drivers with the patience to keep out of the throttle.

Rod
03-24-2009, 04:26 PM
It's no more slick than a normal surface in the wet. If it rains, it will reward drivers with the patience to keep out of the throttle.
I'm not talking about the fact that it's slick, after all, that's the whole point :). What I'm talking about was the inability of even instructors to keep from spinning out because of the uneaveness of the grip in the wet.

woodym3
03-24-2009, 05:21 PM
Woody, I'm really curious about your review of the skidpad. It was crazy with the different grip levels. I think an autox on a wet surface like that would be mayhem. It'll be humorous, at best, don't you think? The challenge will be to see if anybody can complete a run.

I didn't drive the skidpad this past weekend (wet or dry). I understand part of the center pad offered varying degrees of grip as you mention. If it does rain this weekend everyone will be able to demonstrate their ability to sense the pending loss of control and regain that control. Think of it as your graduation exercise Rod.

I love autocrossing in the rain.

Rod
03-24-2009, 05:57 PM
...If it does rain this weekend everyone will be able to demonstrate their ability to sense the pending loss of control and regain that control. Think of it as your graduation exercise Rod...
Haha! I was signing up for Autox 101, this may be a graduate level course. I did an autox years ago before I knew what one was. A buddy had a Formula V he was trying to sell me and the autox was my test drive. I was so low in that car I couldn't see past the cones! Three runs, all starting and ending in the right place, but three DQs for going astray somewhere on the course. I'm hoping that having a better view of the layout will help me out...we'll see.

forrealb50
03-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Rain doesn't both me, the awd will give me an advantage I could use.

Biggins
03-24-2009, 07:38 PM
I love autocrossing in the rain.
As do I; it makes it much more interesting...

I just can't say I enjoy working the course in the rain. :eek:

Sammyzuko
03-24-2009, 09:30 PM
I was on the skid pad last weekend. All I can say is I'll do whatever it takes to stay out of the dirt. Doesn't look like a fun place to be. Better than a light pole or curb......yeah. I'm sure the course will be designed so that going off is not an easily accomplishment.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Sammyzuko/Skidpad.jpg

woodym3
03-24-2009, 09:53 PM
Here's a Z4 running in our January test day. It was quite wet/muddy is some sections:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyl5vQZS5YA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Ebimmerforums%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D1189310%26page%3D3&feature=player_embedded

Car54
03-24-2009, 10:33 PM
Last years first event contained enough rain to not only cancel the event, but to destroy everything that wasn't bolted down.

Come to think of it...the SCCA's first event was a rainy mess....they didn't cancel though.

gbauer
03-25-2009, 08:46 AM
Josh Hickey just told me that he had to cancel so please take him off the list.


His subie just spun a bearing with 9k on the odometer. It gave me ample opportunity to tell him that he should have ponied up for a bimmer!

woodym3
03-25-2009, 09:26 AM
hmmm. off topic, but I have a neighbor who recently spun a bearing on a 4-week old Subaru Legacy GT.

gbauer
03-25-2009, 10:00 AM
hmmm. off topic, but I have a neighbor who recently spun a bearing on a 4-week old Subaru Legacy GT.
it sounds like a major problem with the new subies. I foresee a rather large and expensive recall in a time when car companies can't afford large or expensive things that shouldn't happen happen to them.

Scary future for subie, huh?

mcoupemindy
03-25-2009, 01:13 PM
Washington Circuit paddock completed:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/completedpaddock.jpg

gbauer
03-25-2009, 01:27 PM
Washington Circuit paddock completed:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/completedpaddock.jpg
nice!

SamB325es
03-25-2009, 09:16 PM
Jon, are we using the sequential numbers on the spreadsheet as car numbers or some other system?

I need time to practice with blue tape, I'm a bit rusty from the off-season.

ea-sport
03-25-2009, 09:55 PM
I was gonna ask the exact the same question. Plus, do we need to put our class?

I don't use blue tape but I need to print the number ahead of time so that I can tape it to my rear side window :frown:.....


Jon, are we using the sequential numbers on the spreadsheet as car numbers or some other system?

I need time to practice with blue tape, I'm a bit rusty from the off-season.

Scany
03-25-2009, 10:55 PM
Washington Circuit paddock completed:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/completedpaddock.jpg

Sweet! will there be room for offloading a trailer and parking it, or should that best be done somewhere else? I guess there'll be quite a few cars for these events.

mcoupemindy
03-25-2009, 10:56 PM
Numbers will be assigned at registration the day of the event. No - the numbers in the spreadsheet mean absolutely nothing.

It is not necessary to put the class on the car, just the number.

mcoupemindy
03-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Sweet! will there be room for offloading a trailer and parking it, or should that best be done somewhere else? I guess there'll be quite a few cars for these events.

No trucks in the paddock per space limitations ...

You can park any truck / trailer combos on the road in front of the ranges.

mcoupemindy
03-25-2009, 10:58 PM
I was gonna ask the exact the same question. Plus, do we need to put our class?

I don't use blue tape but I need to print the number ahead of time so that I can tape it to my rear side window :frown:.....

You won't know the number until registration at the event ...

Window chalk FTW.

Scany
03-25-2009, 11:07 PM
No trucks in the paddock per space limitations ...

You can park any truck / trailer combos on the road in front of the ranges.

no problem. But what are "the ranges"?

mcoupemindy
03-25-2009, 11:15 PM
no problem. But what are "the ranges"?

The gun ranges ...

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/ranges.jpg

This was taken from the skidpad surface. You can see the paddock (gravel in the picture here), and then a road below it with the ranges on it. We can use this area for trailer parking.

Make any sense?

Scany
03-25-2009, 11:19 PM
The gun ranges ...

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/usermedia/images/autocross/ranges.jpg

This was taken from the skidpad surface. You can see the paddock (gravel in the picture here), and then a road below it with the ranges on it. We can use this area for trailer parking.

Make any sense?

Brilliant! :biggrin: I guess you turn off the road earlier to get to it, not the turn into the TSP.

Got the truck back today with a new engine and Ford says towing should be fine. So instead of saying "What?" all day, I'll only say it half the time by not driving 2 hours in a 100db environment :rolleyes:

civic06sir
03-26-2009, 01:54 PM
I'm registered, is there an updated list?

mcoupemindy
03-26-2009, 02:03 PM
I'm registered, is there an updated list?

I will work on getting an updated list posted tomorrow. Please stay tuned ...

mcoupemindy
03-26-2009, 02:46 PM
I haven't heard of a reason windows have to be full up or full down in an autocross. What is the reason for that Jonathan?

Oh ... I never answered your question ...

The reason for full up or full down is due to shattering glass.

It's almost impossible to shatter glass in either the full up or full down position normally. However, if a window is half up or partially down, the window with the pressure of an elbow, helmet, etc. can easily shatter. Essentially where the window goes into the door becomes a fixed item to offer leverage on the stress point. Essentially it is creating a fulcrum to shatter the glass.

civic06sir
03-26-2009, 07:16 PM
Really, so if it's raining I'm assuming we are going to have it full up mode. I guess some cars are just going to get hot on the inside.

mcoupemindy
03-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Updated registration list!

ea-sport
03-26-2009, 10:53 PM
It looks like the morning session will be as wet as the afternoon session (http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USWV0726?dayNum=2&from=weekend)

At least now the results will be comparable since both sessions will be equally wet and fun :biggrin:

mcoupemindy
03-27-2009, 07:29 AM
It's still 26 hours out, but FYI: http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USWV0726?begHour=9&begDay=87&from=hrly_graph

woodym3
03-27-2009, 08:44 AM
Damn! Only 20% chance of rain. I like the rain. . . . if it's the same conditions for all of my competitors.

Scany
03-27-2009, 11:52 AM
will there be a layout of the track before the event?

mcoupemindy
03-27-2009, 11:56 AM
will there be a layout of the track before the event?

No. We have a general design set, but, as always, it may be slightly modified before we starting walk-thrus.

I can tell you that is is 6/10 of a mile long and I estimate runs in the 55 second mark.

Car54
03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
With the weather we can add 10 or more seconds, no?

Time to go re-register for T2 or can I do it there?

mcoupemindy
03-27-2009, 02:30 PM
With the weather we can add 10 or more seconds, no?

Time to go re-register for T2 or can I do it there?

If you are going to change class, please reregister. I'll pull the final list tonight to upload into our timing software, so do it soon.

woodym3
03-27-2009, 03:24 PM
With the weather we can add 10 or more seconds, no?

Time to go re-register for T2 or can I do it there?

Does Car 54 know it is not going to rain in the morning? Besides, new R-comp tires will be better than old streets?

Scany
03-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Does Car 54 know it is not going to rain in the morning? Besides, new R-comp tires will be better than old streets?

Im putting on the Azenis RT615. Time to see how bad they are if it rains :frown: Might be better than the Sumi H4s anyhow.

Car54
03-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Does Car 54 know it is not going to rain in the morning? Besides, new R-comp tires will be better than old streets?

Now that I have announced moving to Woody's class, I know better than to take his advice.

etherpool
03-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Im putting on the Azenis RT615. Time to see how bad they are if it rains :frown: Might be better than the Sumi H4s anyhow.

I have the Azenis on my VW and I love them in the rain. Of course FWD helps but you may be surprised.

Car54
03-27-2009, 07:48 PM
How much hp is your VW putting out now?

forrealb50
03-28-2009, 04:20 PM
That was a great event. I can't wait for the results!

agreatham
03-28-2009, 05:39 PM
That was a great event. I can't wait for the results!

This was my first autocross event and I'm hooked. My goals were to stay on course and not hit any of the cones and I was able to do both. This may sound weird, but I actually liked having the course as wet as it was since it made for some dramatic 360s (and even one 720!). I feel kinda sorry for the Mazda that got stuck in the mud (last car to go during the morning session), though. Did he get out okay?

mcoupemindy
03-28-2009, 08:34 PM
This was my first autocross event and I'm hooked. My goals were to stay on course and not hit any of the cones and I was able to do both. This may sound weird, but I actually liked having the course as wet as it was since it made for some dramatic 360s (and even one 720!). I feel kinda sorry for the Mazda that got stuck in the mud (last car to go during the morning session), though. Did he get out okay?

Yep. A group of guys played tug of war with it and got it out fine.

mcoupemindy
03-28-2009, 08:34 PM
Results are posted:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=55&Itemid=168

mf44
03-28-2009, 08:58 PM
Results are posted:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=55&Itemid=168

Well I'm glad I'm enrolled in the autox school, that's for sure! :biggrin:

thesixerkid
03-28-2009, 09:32 PM
I had a blast today. First time autocrossing with my e36. I can't wait for the next event. You guys are hands down the coolest group to run an event. Well Done.

dannykao
03-28-2009, 11:22 PM
Yep. A group of guys played tug of war with it and got it out fine.

Frank made it home safe and sound and the car has no damage. :biggrin:

Thank you guys for a fun and smooth event. This is the best wet autox that I have ever been to.

SamB325es
03-29-2009, 06:31 AM
Wow, nice job Pete!

The event was very smooth, despite the volume and conditions. So well done fellas!

Biggins is a Punk!

mcoupemindy
03-29-2009, 08:35 AM
This is the best wet autox that I have ever been to.

Thanks Danny!

Much appreciated.

forrealb50
03-29-2009, 08:37 AM
I saw a lot of photographers out there. Are pictures usually posted? I would love to get my hands on an action shot of my car to blow up for the garage.

mcoupemindy
03-29-2009, 08:37 AM
Wow, nice job Pete!

HAHAHA

Pete's been out of the scene for some time now - he assists during event day, but otherwise has graduated from our autocross leadership program.

Although, I give mad props to those Porsche drivers who can come clean up ... Go VW!

Pete
03-29-2009, 09:09 AM
I stepped down from the program last year. I just give Jonathan and Bogdan support as they give up a lot of spare time to make the program what it is. Anything I can do to make the day of the event easier for them, I try as I was there before.

I tip my VW hat to them.

SamB325es
03-29-2009, 09:37 AM
I was giving Pete mad props for FTD.

I did not have the attachements necessary to really push, and Chris crushed me by 2 sec.

Like I said, the event went really well despite the number of participants, So kudos Jonathon, Bogdan and crew!




A 318 automatic!!!!
WTF.
Nice job Chris!

mcoupemindy
03-29-2009, 09:43 AM
I was giving Pete mad props for FTD.

Oh ... FAIL on my part.

Sammyzuko
03-29-2009, 10:03 AM
That course was great! I really enjoyed the wet conditions. I'm an autox noob and at my previous event every run felt like a blur. Yesterday in the wet everything was slower and it felt like you really had time to think about what was happening.
I'd like to say thanks to Jonathon, Bogdan, Woody and everyone else who helped out!

Car54
03-29-2009, 12:42 PM
Here's some video from yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hlmz4xWjZY

Are we going to have a video section too? I saw some camcorders out there.

Sammyzuko
03-29-2009, 02:01 PM
"truck" .....LOL

Scany
03-29-2009, 03:27 PM
A dashboard with changing "scenery" and engine noise :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDpyITTYfIY

gbauer
03-29-2009, 04:10 PM
A dashboard with changing "scenery" and engine noise :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDpyITTYfIY
Yep. You need to find a way to raise that camera up a bit....

A dashboard with changing scenery, engine noise and the occasional orange cone.
Short vid of my co-driver. Mine's still uploading....

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/gwbauer/autocross%203-28-09/th_summit3-28-09018.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/gwbauer/autocross%203-28-09/?action=view&current=summit3-28-09018.flv)

mcoupemindy
03-29-2009, 04:38 PM
Are we going to have a video section too? I saw some camcorders out there.

Sure.

gbauer
03-29-2009, 04:52 PM
Sure.
trying to upload a video now to youtube but I swear to all that is holly and righteous that the damn thing just wants to piss me off! I've had to restart my computer twice and retry the upload 8 times now. :icon_ange

Car54
03-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Youtube has seemed to step up their game...you used to have to fill out all the video info before the upload would start. Now with HD and online editing, they're really putting Vimeo to shame.

Scany
03-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Youtube has seemed to step up their game...you used to have to fill out all the video info before the upload would start. Now with HD and online editing, they're really putting Vimeo to shame.

+1 I was about to go elsewhere but I'm happy now :)

Car54
03-29-2009, 07:53 PM
Your video took me back to when I was a kid and used to lay down in the back seat and look out the windows at the sky.

Scany
03-29-2009, 08:16 PM
Your video took me back to when I was a kid and used to lay down in the back seat and look out the windows at the sky.

LOL It a visualization exercise. It as set up for "reference point in the sky training".

I might have to get a mount that I can put on the diagonal bar instead.

gbauer
03-29-2009, 08:35 PM
LOL It a visualization exercise. It as set up for "reference point in the sky training".

I might have to get a mount that I can put on the diagonal bar instead.
Go here: http://www.panaviseonline.com/

...but wait until tomorrow night when I get my stuff from them. I'll let you know if the quality is good. The price is certainly where it should be though!

Car54
03-29-2009, 08:40 PM
Panavise is good stuff...we use their products at work to solder connectors.

gbauer
03-29-2009, 08:46 PM
Panavise is good stuff...we use their products at work to solder connectors.
I used part of their stuff for my current mount (see video). It's the most solid (and still adjustable) mount I've seen so far.

etherpool
03-29-2009, 10:48 PM
How much hp is your VW putting out now?

About 115. That's when I have oil pressure!!

bogdan
03-30-2009, 07:32 AM
Thanks to everyone that came out!

Without participants, we would not have an autorcross program!

Too bad about the rain, hopefully mother nature will cooperate for the next event at the TSP. :)

Congrats to the ass-engined car driven by the slanty-eyed cone punter. :p

bogdan
03-30-2009, 07:33 AM
About 115. That's when I have oil pressure!!

Uhh.. I put more power down to one wheel! :p

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 07:36 AM
Uhh.. I put more power down to one wheel! :p

But his car weighs 1/4 of the SS Bogdan.

Car54
03-30-2009, 08:34 AM
SS Bogdan.


:icon_rock

bogdan
03-30-2009, 09:37 AM
But his car weighs 1/4 of the SS Bogdan.

1 191 Thayer, Jonathan 1999 BMW M Coupe Red 63.794 65.082+1 67.032+DNF 61.499

1 190 Poplacean, Bogdan 2008 BMW M3 White 66.506 62.938+1 60.161 59.695 59.695


Quiet from the peanut gallery. :p

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 09:44 AM
1 191 Thayer, Jonathan 1999 BMW M Coupe Red 63.794 65.082+1 67.032+DNF 61.499

1 190 Poplacean, Bogdan 2008 BMW M3 White 66.506 62.938+1 60.161 59.695 59.695


Quiet from the peanut gallery. :p

I'm sure I could have done that if I could have had a car that weighed 500# more with four dead hookers in the hatch with good rain tires. So :p at you.

Scany
03-30-2009, 09:47 AM
1 191 Thayer, Jonathan 1999 BMW M Coupe Red 63.794 65.082+1 67.032+DNF 61.499

1 190 Poplacean, Bogdan 2008 BMW M3 White 66.506 62.938+1 60.161 59.695 59.695


Quiet from the peanut gallery. :p

I was surprised to see that many red M coupes and white E9x M3s :tongue:

Great job Jonathan and Bogdan and the rest of your crew. It's real fun to partake in your events!

bogdan
03-30-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm sure I could have done that if I could have had a car that weighed 500# more with four dead hookers in the hatch with good rain tires. So :p at you.

I blame the loose nut behind the wheel....

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 09:54 AM
I blame the loose nut behind the wheel....

I'm still trying to afford one of these: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12

Pete
03-30-2009, 10:01 AM
I'm sure I could have done that if I could have had a car that weighed 500# more with four dead hookers in the hatch with good rain tires. So :p at you.

Hey wait, I'm no dead hooker. I was one of the bobble heads in his car. ;) That M3 does commendably with that much weight. I'm darn impressed with what Adam did with his 328is 1 wheel drive car.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 10:17 AM
Hey wait, I'm no dead hooker. I was one of the bobble heads in his car. ;) That M3 does commendably with that much weight. I'm darn impressed with what Adam did with his 328is 1 wheel drive car.

I guess we can drop, in honor, the "slow" part of his name for atleast an hour.

bogdan
03-30-2009, 10:23 AM
I guess we can drop, in honor, the "slow" part of his name for at most an hour.

Fixed.

Pete
03-30-2009, 10:25 AM
Fixed.

LOL true. It would be a lot to expect him to learn from this experience. He'll go back to his herky jerky on/off throttle driving style and we can resume ridiculing him.

Oh wait, we're doing that now. All is right in the universe.

Bob
03-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Results are posted:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=55&Itemid=168

I'm officially claiming FOC (furthest off course) in AX history, as I was of course by 110 miles, even more amazingly, I finished my final 2 runs on course, while still AT HOME! LOL #222 mystery driver?

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 10:41 AM
I'm officially claiming FOC (furthest off course) in AX history, as I was of course by 110 miles, even more amazingly, I finished my final 2 runs on course, while still AT HOME! LOL #222 mystery driver?

Obviously someone was telling the starter that they were #222. I'm still trying to get to the bottom of it. Worst case scenario, I remove them.

adam
03-30-2009, 10:46 AM
I'm officially claiming FOC (furthest off course) in AX history, as I was of course by 110 miles, even more amazingly, I finished my final 2 runs on course, while still AT HOME! LOL #222 mystery driver?

Yea I was wondering about that... I didn't see you or your car there lol

Walka
03-30-2009, 10:58 AM
Obviously someone was telling the starter that they were #222. I'm still trying to get to the bottom of it. Worst case scenario, I remove them.

i remember the guy who was 222 as i was the starter who was told that.

black bmw 4door. i remember he had 222 and i had to confirm it about 4 times cause it seemed like you guys didnt believe me.>"202? 220? are you sure 222?"

btw next time as a starter none of the numbers were on my side of the car so it was difficult to get everyones number. shouldnt the number be put on both sides of the car?

thesixerkid
03-30-2009, 11:02 AM
i remember the guy who was 222 as i was the starter who was told that.

black bmw 4door. i remember he had 222 and i had to confirm it about 4 times cause it seemed like you guys didnt believe me.>"202? 220? are you sure 222?"

btw next time as a starter none of the numbers were on my side of the car so it was difficult to get everyones number. shouldnt the number be put on both sides of the car?

Good call on the # posting. I had to yell to the starter everytime because the # was on the opposite side.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 11:04 AM
i remember the guy who was 222 as i was the starter who was told that.

black bmw 4door. i remember he had 222 and i had to confirm it about 4 times cause it seemed like you guys didnt believe me.>"202? 220? are you sure 222?"

btw next time as a starter none of the numbers were on my side of the car so it was difficult to get everyones number. shouldnt the number be put on both sides of the car?

Thanks! That helps a bunch!

And yes, numbers are supposed to be on both sides of the car.

woodym3
03-30-2009, 11:36 AM
Jonathan, Bogdan, and all the other workers who were out in the cold and drizzle all day starting at 7 am I just want to say I thought it was a great event. I suspect the other 110 drivers (63 BMWs) thought so too. Despite what it might look like in the pictures, I thought the course was safe and fair to all. To only have two cars end up off the pavement out of about 450 runs is pretty amazing. The second fastest time of the day was a relatively stock 328 (no limited slip differential) on Kumho SPT street tires. Fastest was a late-model Porsche 911. How's that for equal competition? It pretty much stayed as wet for the last run as the first.

I think the Washington Circuit proved to be a good facility for autocrossing despite its distance from DC and Baltimore. It is too bad the paddock's lower elevation prevents any view of the circuit, but I will be talking to Jonathan about an idea to improve the spectating aspect, particularily for the drivers in the current heat.

We all appreciate the quick posting of results and the pictures posted on Bimmerforums by Anthony (wrong class) Pino, Katie Thayer, and George Bauer are spectacular.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1201567

mduhovich
03-30-2009, 01:17 PM
i remember the guy who was 222 as i was the starter who was told that.

black bmw 4door. i remember he had 222 and i had to confirm it about 4 times cause it seemed like you guys didnt believe me.>"202? 220? are you sure 222?"



I know that guy. He is actually on e46 M3. His name is Bert. He was right after me when we were registering. I think his number supposed to be 224. However, he forgot it and he was under impression that he was 222.. .

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 01:19 PM
I know that guy. He is actually on e46 M3. His name is Bert. He was right after me when we were registring. I think his number supposed to be 224. However, he forgot it and he was under impression that he was 222.. .

Perfect ... You've just made my life 100x easier.

Biggins
03-30-2009, 01:26 PM
Thanks! That helps a bunch!

And yes, numbers are supposed to be on both sides of the car.
I'm busy at work now, but I'll e-mail you this evening. I have an idea that may make future tech inspections go quicker and easier.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 01:49 PM
I'm busy at work now, but I'll e-mail you this evening. I have an idea that may make future tech inspections go quicker and easier.

I'm all ears!

Scany
03-30-2009, 04:16 PM
I'm all ears!

I was thinking about that. Would it work to registration/payment and tech in the same line? I would guess that would make it quicker for the participants at least. You could have tech pencil in the number of the car on that little dot sticker so the participant wont forget. But I'm just speculating and thought I'd give my to cents worth :)

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 04:30 PM
I was thinking about that. Would it work to registration/payment and tech in the same line? I would guess that would make it quicker for the participants at least. You could have tech pencil in the number of the car on that little dot sticker so the participant wont forget. But I'm just speculating and thought I'd give my to cents worth :)

That sounds nice, however it most likely would be a logistical nightmare. Our computers must retain a physical link to the timing lights, etc. and are necessary for registration.

Tech / Registration need to be physically separated. I've never seen a successful drive through registration. Plus, the cycle time to collect funds, verify membership, enter registration information into the timing software and tech a car before serving the next person would be atleast 3-4 minutes per car. At that rate, it would take around 3 hours to register all the people just for the first session.

Having two independent teams allows for quick registration and quicker tech inspection.

Now, we could do like the SCCA does and have the participants number written on the course map / tech form - however, this adds an additional load to the person handling registration, and will slow down the process.

As far as a management perspective, we can try to refine the process, however, in my opinion, we should not try to reinvent the wheel.

Both tech inspection and registration could go ALOT quicker if we had sufficient volunteers to help with each. This past weekend, we had very little support compared to what we needed in these areas.

AG
03-30-2009, 04:52 PM
It seemed like some numbers were actually pre-assigned. Couldn't the list be published or the numbers sent out in a confirmation e-mail so the drivers know beforehand?

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 05:15 PM
It seemed like some numbers were actually pre-assigned. Couldn't the list be published or the numbers sent out in a confirmation e-mail so the drivers know beforehand?

Short answer: NO

Long answer: Numbers are assigned when uploading into our timing software. Best case scenario is this occurs 9:00 pm the night before the event. Last event, I didn't get the upload complete until 1:15 am. It's not very useful to have a list published for 6 hours before the event, plus it creates LOADS of trouble for people making special number requests.

We're very lenient on how we allow the numbering of cars (shoe polish, painters tape, etc.) due to this.

NOTE: Once again, this can be changed, however, I need more volunteers to step to the plate to assist with the behind the scenes administration. I'm burning out; Everyone has additional demands but offer no volunteer support. Most events our size are planned by a large committee (10+), however, all the behind the scenes planning (basically everything) is completed by one person (me).

Car54
03-30-2009, 05:34 PM
Perhaps a list of duties and a sign up sheet could help. A lot of people, including me, probably don't know all that goes into preparing for an event. My schedule is getting less hectic and I'd be able to donate a few hours a week. I know you've been busting your a$$ not only organizing and planning, but also promoting; something I haven't seen in the last couple years. You're doing a great job!

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 05:46 PM
Perhaps a list of duties and a sign up sheet could help. A lot of people, including me, probably don't know all that goes into preparing for an event. My schedule is getting less hectic and I'd be able to donate a few hours a week. I know you've been busting your a$$ not only organizing and planning, but also promoting; something I haven't seen in the last couple years. You're doing a great job!

I would say, that on average, I spend 45-50 hours per week on the autocross program. No joke. Last week I would assume 60+ hours.

The problem is that I have a hard time finding dependable help - those that I can count on ALWAYS, that don't flake and get things done.

First thing first, I need a registrar. Someone to handle all registration inquires, manage the online database, edit the website, etc. That would be a great help.

Second, I three to four people to do nothing but promote non-stop. This would include attending other club events and get people interested in the program.

Third, I need someone to prepare all the event day documentation, coursemaps, etc.

Fourth, I need people to show up EARLY the day of the event. To design and set up courses. We ran 1 hr behind because of this at the last event.

Fifth, I need someone to actively develop the FAQ section.

gbauer
03-30-2009, 05:47 PM
Perhaps a list of duties and a sign up sheet could help. A lot of people, including me, probably don't know all that goes into preparing for an event. My schedule is getting less hectic and I'd be able to donate a few hours a week. I know you've been busting your a$$ not only organizing and planning, but also promoting; something I haven't seen in the last couple years. You're doing a great job!
That's why he's paid 100k a year. :tongue:


Seriously though, Jonathan, a list of duties and perhaps a brief written explanation of what's done would be helpful for those of us that want to help out. I'm more than available to help you, just need a little direction.

BTW: my cross-promotion brought out at least 2 in the rain for you....:biggrin:

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 05:58 PM
I also need a worker chief and novice coordinator, both of which need to be experienced autocrossers who can commit to attending all eight events.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 06:00 PM
All said and done, I need 10 dedicated volunteers that can commit 5-10 hours per week.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 06:07 PM
That's why he's paid 100k a year. :tongue:

You're funny ... real funny.

Seriously, I've already tasked you with one of the most important things - getting new participants! Keep it up :biggrin:.

If you'd like to help out more, I can give you access for the FAQ section, which needs developed as a resource for newcomers.

Scany
03-30-2009, 06:37 PM
I hear you Jonathan. You put in amazing amount of time, making it work like it was a whole organization of people. I really want to help you out, but afraid of committing to something I can't do 100%. It seems like most of your work descriptions above demands quite a few hours, and I can only give you a few a week. I'm definitely willing to share some of the tasks if we could be a couple of people together on one task/operation. Like if me and Craig only got a few hours each, we might be able to put together one full position.

mcoupemindy
03-30-2009, 06:48 PM
I hear you Jonathan. You put in amazing amount of time, making it work like it was a whole organization of people. I really want to help you out, but afraid of committing to something I can't do 100%. It seems like most of your work descriptions above demands quite a few hours, and I can only give you a few a week. I'm definitely willing to share some of the tasks if we could be a couple of people together on one task/operation. Like if me and Craig only got a few hours each, we might be able to put together one full position.

That would work for me. Most of the time comes into play the week before an event, before then, it's maintenance. The biggest thing I need first are individuals to help with online registration :)

gbauer
03-30-2009, 06:56 PM
You're funny ... real funny.

Seriously, I've already tasked you with one of the most important things - getting new participants! Keep it up :biggrin:.

If you'd like to help out more, I can give you access for the FAQ section, which needs developed as a resource for newcomers.
Sure thing. Just let me know. You know how it works: give me a burrito and it's on!

BTW: I might have a couple of club racers coming to an event or two this year. :biggrin:

pseto
03-30-2009, 07:40 PM
Jonathan - good, consistent help is definitely hard to find. hopefully others will step up and volunteer their time towards making this program even more successful.

i heard a lot of great comments about this past weekend, and read a few complaints. funny how those that have complaints or wanna offer advice, rarely offer their time to help.

hopefully people realize that this ENTIRE chapter is run by volunteers and its often a thankless position to run a program and/or serve on the board. hang in there, as getting burnt out will essentially mean that autox and this website's upkeep will deteriorate significantly.

i can speak for many on the board who recognize your initiative and hard work and only wish we had more people like you to help run this chapter

if you need my help to promote autox, just let me know.

agreatham
03-30-2009, 09:20 PM
First thing first, I need a registrar. Someone to handle all registration inquires, manage the online database, edit the website, etc. That would be a great help.


I volunteer. Check your e-mail when you get the chance.

etherpool
03-30-2009, 09:43 PM
I would love to get more involved but I'm not sure how I can help. I do attend some other club events (CDC, AI) and hope to make a few others. A list of things would help people determine what they can do to help. LMK.

thotts
03-31-2009, 04:09 PM
i can help with items 1 (registrar & website) and 3 (documents) on a regular basis, and most likely 4 (on track setup - can't design a track, but i know how to put a cone on the ground) as well.

let me know what's required.

- gina -




First thing first, I need a registrar. Someone to handle all registration inquires, manage the online database, edit the website, etc. That would be a great help.

Second, I three to four people to do nothing but promote non-stop. This would include attending other club events and get people interested in the program.

Third, I need someone to prepare all the event day documentation, coursemaps, etc.

Fourth, I need people to show up EARLY the day of the event. To design and set up courses. We ran 1 hr behind because of this at the last event.

Fifth, I need someone to actively develop the FAQ section.

mcoupemindy
03-31-2009, 06:45 PM
Thanks to everyone who has contacted me. I'm trying to put together a game plan for this year and will be contacting everyone individually.

I appreciate all the support as many of our previous volunteers are MIA for this year.

Thanks again! You guys rock!

Reach
04-01-2009, 10:17 AM
I'm happy to help a few hours a week as well. I'll contact you.

jensscott
04-02-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks to all of you for making the first club event on the Washington a success despite the rain and the incomplete track. The can-do attitude of all of you is what made the day and I look forward BMW's future events on the Washington Circuit.

Here's what you can expect in future events:
1) Candy Cane Curbs. Starting next week, we're going to be installing apex style curbs similar to the curbs on all of the other circuits here.
2) Better Drainage. Since the Washington circuit is also used as a skid pad, it was designed flat in some areas so the water wouldn't run off however some construction errors created some low points and thus the pond effect you all saw. This will be corrected also starting next week.
3) Grass. After the curbing has been installed and the low points fixed, we will seed the whole area.
4) Some fixes. There were some paving mistakes in the paddock area that will be corrected.

Thanks NCC
Thanks Jonathan

Jens Scott

pseto
04-02-2009, 10:24 AM
excellent news

FeintDriftMaster
04-09-2009, 05:51 PM
This was my first autox and I am hooked! Just a question though, can I bring more than one car? If two people want to swap cars how is that done? Thanks, and the rain was a great equalizer.

mcoupemindy
04-10-2009, 06:42 AM
This was my first autox and I am hooked! Just a question though, can I bring more than one car? If two people want to swap cars how is that done? Thanks, and the rain was a great equalizer.

I'm glad that you enjoyed your first autocross!

As far as bringing multiple cars, it's not a good idea. First, we need to know, for our timing software, what car you are bringing. Each participant is assigned to a car. For example, at event day check in when we assign you a number, that number corresponds with your car and you as a participant. All four (or however many we decide is doable) of your competition runs MUST be in the same vehicle. If you decide event day to change vehicles, that's fine, just please let us know when you are checking in! But remember, all four runs must be done in the same vehicle.

Fun runs are a different story (if we have time to do some). You'll see us "trading" cars continuously. There is a lot to be gained experience wise from driving a variety of different cars.

Sammyzuko
04-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Thanks to all of you for making the first club event on the Washington a success despite the rain and the incomplete track. The can-do attitude of all of you is what made the day and I look forward BMW's future events on the Washington Circuit.

Here's what you can expect in future events:
1) Candy Cane Curbs. Starting next week, we're going to be installing apex style curbs similar to the curbs on all of the other circuits here.
2) Better Drainage. Since the Washington circuit is also used as a skid pad, it was designed flat in some areas so the water wouldn't run off however some construction errors created some low points and thus the pond effect you all saw. This will be corrected also starting next week.
3) Grass. After the curbing has been installed and the low points fixed, we will seed the whole area.
4) Some fixes. There were some paving mistakes in the paddock area that will be corrected.

Thanks NCC
Thanks Jonathan

Jens Scott
Jens, it's great to see Summit Point continue to add new circuits. I'm thankful to have such a nice facility within easy driving distance from DC. The first time I visited SP you took me for a few laps on the Shenandoah circuit and I've been hooked since. So I'd like to say thanks to you and the Summit Point staff. BTW, all the workers out there always seem extremely friendly and helpful.

FeintDriftMaster
04-12-2009, 09:25 PM
I second the above. I happened to mention in the morning that it would be nice to have a trash can near the starting point and one of the SP guys near me called it in on the radio when he overheard us talking.

I had been to SP a couple times before for the first and second drift events. They were a blast. We went for ride alongs in the caprices. What a ride! You look at those cars and think, "whatever!". But the drivers were amazing.

Plus the car rolling event was hillarious!