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mcoupemindy
01-11-2009, 08:29 AM
The National Capital Chapter's Annual Autocross School will be held on April 18, 2009 at the Maryland State Police Training Center in Sykesville, MD. As always, the school is directed at helping those with none or little autocross experience to get their feet wet.

Do you, or someone you know, want to participate in the school???

Please go here and sign-up for a notification when registration opens.

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?option=com_form&form_id=2

Last year, we filled 90% of the school's capacity with JUST those who signed up on the notification list. Typically, those who jump on the list, get first priority into the school, so it's a good idea to do it!!!

Please spread the word to everyone you know that might be interested!

dougmoney
01-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Awesome idea for those interested in getting into autocrossing. Sadly, I won't be back in the Mid-Atlantic to teach people to be as slow as I am this year, but Jon is much better at that than I am.

Happy Motoring!

Scany
01-12-2009, 02:44 PM
I thought of going, but since I was there last year maybe I should help you out somehow instead, and leave the spots for the others? Let me know Jonathan.

mcoupemindy
01-12-2009, 02:48 PM
I thought of going, but since I was there last year maybe I should help you out somehow instead, and leave the spots for the others? Let me know Jonathan.

I would like to have the spots be first available to those with very little or no experience.

We would love to have you come and help out!

Scany
01-12-2009, 08:24 PM
I would like to have the spots be first available to those with very little or no experience.

We would love to have you come and help out!

Excellent! I'll be one of your "little" helpers :tongue:

pseto
01-13-2009, 12:01 AM
how much is the autox school gonna cost? and when do we pay?

mcoupemindy
01-13-2009, 07:15 AM
how much is the autox school gonna cost? and when do we pay?

The cost will be no more than $50 - actual cost TBD as lot cost and insurance cost play a big factor.

You pay when registering.

People who sign-up for the notification list will get first priorty registering, as long as they have minimal experience and are club members.

mcoupemindy
01-15-2009, 05:08 AM
Cost is going to be $50.00 for members / $90.00 for non-members (hmmm ... sounds like you should just buy the membership for $40.00!) per student. We are going to limit the school to 20 students for the maximum amount of seat time. Cost of the school will include lunch (typically pizza and drinks).

Please sign up on the notification list ASAP. We will start offering invitations to participate in February.

mcoupemindy
01-24-2009, 08:09 AM
We have MANY interested in the autocross school already. If you are interested and didn't take the time to get on the list, please do it NOW.

Thanks, and let me know of any questions.

mcoupemindy
03-01-2009, 08:53 AM
We have hit maximum capacity for the school. Thanks everyone for your interest!

Sammyzuko
03-02-2009, 12:42 PM
So the school is completely full already?? I had been waiting for a registration link to pop up on the NCC main page. Oh well, I've done it before and had a great time. I enjoyed it much more than the other Autox event I went to because you get so many more runs at the school.

mcoupemindy
03-02-2009, 12:45 PM
So the school is completely full already?? I had been waiting for a registration link to pop up on the NCC main page. Oh well, I've done it before and had a great time. I enjoyed it much more than the other Autox event I went to because you get so many more runs at the school.

Correct. It's full. Plus the school is aimed at beginners ...

Sammyzuko
03-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Correct. It's full. Plus the school is aimed at beginners ...
I've only done the school + 1 event .... and I'm not very good:biggrin:.

mcoupemindy
03-02-2009, 02:13 PM
I've only done the school + 1 event .... and I'm not very good:biggrin:.

You need to plan to attend the entire series this year. Sure, you're only guaranteed four timed runs, but stick around for fun runs too. Also, make sure that you're jumping in and getting as many ride alongs as possible.

gbauer
03-02-2009, 04:04 PM
Need an extra instructor? (even one that sucks at driving... :shifty: )

mcoupemindy
03-03-2009, 02:10 AM
Need an extra instructor? (even one that sucks at driving... :shifty: )

You could always come out and help shag cones or run timing.

agreatham
03-19-2009, 12:52 PM
You could always come out and help shag cones or run timing.

I'd like to do this. Do I just show up and look for the Autocross Committee?

mcoupemindy
03-19-2009, 12:54 PM
I'd like to do this. Do I just show up and look for the Autocross Committee?

Please send me an email with your first and last name. I'll add you to my list of cone shaggers.

Email is in signature below.

mduhovich
03-29-2009, 12:47 PM
Is there any chance left at all to get into school?.. I have no experience

woodym3
03-29-2009, 02:21 PM
For no experience, it looks like you did pretty good yesterday.
But the AX school will give you much more opportunity to work on the various car control skills that help in autocrossing. I hope there are still openings.

mcoupemindy
03-29-2009, 03:16 PM
Is there any chance left at all to get into school?.. I have no experience

The school has been filled since February.

I'm considering doing a school later in the year due to the overwhelming response.

Please jump on the list here: http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?view=details&id=106%3Aautox-annual-school&option=com_eventlist&Itemid=26

Those who didn't get in last time will get priority next time if they meet other requirements such as minimal experience, etc.

mduhovich
03-29-2009, 06:35 PM
For no experience, it looks like you did pretty good yesterday.
But the AX school will give you much more opportunity to work on the various car control skills that help in autocrossing. I hope there are still openings.
I really enjoyed it.. I told my husband that that was the best day in my life!
HAHA

Many thanks to George and Scott!


It looks like no openings :( Will wait for the next autoX school...

Prowess Symphony
04-01-2009, 10:31 AM
Darn I missed it. Def signing up for the next one!

mcoupemindy
04-01-2009, 10:34 AM
Darn I missed it. Def signing up for the next one!

Please sign up on the notification list to be let know if we have a second school this year!

pseto
04-01-2009, 10:47 AM
Darn I missed it. Def signing up for the next one!

i posted this all on e90post too. you gotta wake up dude!!! :D

Prowess Symphony
04-01-2009, 10:49 AM
i posted this all on e90post too. you gotta wake up dude!!! :D

Hows a guy suppose to function with all these forums, posts, signups?....I cant handle the pressure, lol :eek:

mcoupemindy
04-09-2009, 07:59 AM
Just a quick note, if you have not prepaid, you have not been accepted into the school. There are some major misconceptions floating around ...

The school participant list is:

Ron Hougham 0 Event(s) Experience
Stanley Lam 0 Event(s) Experience
Paul Seto 1 Event(s) Experience
Kendra Seto 0 Event(s) Experience
Don Phattiyakul 0 Event(s) Experience
Orlando Taylor 0 Event(s) Experience
Jackson Hou 1 Event(s) Experience
Rachel Myers 0 Event(s) Experience
Gina Hector 0 Event(s) Experience
Toennes Log 1 Event(s) Experience
Andy MacLean 0 Event(s) Experience
Wesley (Denny) Minami 0 Event(s) Experience
Oscar Benitez 0 Event(s) Experience
Marlon Spencer 2 Event(s) Experience
Greg Kitson 1 Event(s) Experience
Nick Selimis 0 Event(s) Experience
Michael Frantel 2 Event(s) Experience
David Whittle 0 Event(s) Experience
Kenny Miller 0 Event(s) Experience
Donne Marchetto 0 Event(s) Experience

If your name does not appear on this list, then you have not been accepted into the school.

Thanks!

///MARINE
04-09-2009, 10:01 AM
What do I have to do to rent a helmet on the day of?

mcoupemindy
04-09-2009, 10:03 AM
What do I have to do to rent a helmet on the day of?

We have a ~10 loaner helmets, so we should be good. No special accommodations needed.

woodym3
04-09-2009, 11:13 AM
If you want exclusive use of your own helmet you can rent from OG Racing. But it's not very convenient to Solomon's Island.

Biggins
04-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Those of you volunteering to shag cones and help out, I'd strongly recommend bringing a pair of mechanix gloves. From experience, they are invaluable at this venue.

mcoupemindy
04-09-2009, 08:13 PM
Those of you volunteering to shag cones and help out, I'd strongly recommend bringing a pair of mechanix gloves. From experience, they are invaluable at this venue.

Please remember if you want to help out, you MUST email me first. Please don't just show up for this event.

Jenson Button
04-16-2009, 12:50 PM
Is it OK to bring spectators in an effort to sink the hook?

mcoupemindy
04-16-2009, 12:53 PM
Is it OK to bring spectators in an effort to sink the hook?

Please see your PM box.

///MARINE
04-19-2009, 04:21 AM
As if I needed one more BMW related addiction, I am now hooked on autocross! Thank you to all the men and women who made it a great learning experience and kept the event running smoothly! The instructors showed me how M engineers meant for a 1995 M3 to be driven. Special thanks to the instructors who rode with me multilpe times to ensure I was doing what they advised. I am a much better driver this morning than I was on the way up there yesterday!

///MARINE
04-19-2009, 05:27 AM
If you want exclusive use of your own helmet you can rent from OG Racing. But it's not very convenient to Solomon's Island.

Nothing the club does is convenient to Solomon's Island, but we love it so we saddle up and come out, every chance we get! I'm getting a helmet from OG Racing A.S.A.P. Thanks again to Jonathan and Bogdan for managing to provide me with loaner helmets to fit my Destro head!

mcoupemindy
04-19-2009, 07:11 AM
As if I needed one more BMW related addiction, I am now hooked on autocross! Thank you to all the men and women who made it a great learning experience and kept the event running smoothly! The instructors showed me how M engineers meant for a 1995 M3 to be driven. Special thanks to the instructors who rode with me multilpe times to ensure I was doing what they advised. I am a much better driver this morning than I was on the way up there yesterday!

We are very glad that you had a great time!

We noticed a very distinct driving improvement in ALL of the participants :)

mcoupemindy
04-19-2009, 09:36 AM
Results Here:

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=55&Itemid=168

Pics are being added to the picture thread.

mduhovich
04-19-2009, 09:40 AM
It was a great school! Thanks to all the instructors who helped me realize my mistakes. Special thanks to Woody for his advices and help. Jonathan, thank you very much for organizing this event. I wish I would me more proficient in English language to explain my feelings, but I’m totally addicted to auto crossing.

Jonathan, I guess I forgot to take the cones. Is it ok if I take them next event? Alternatively, I can pick those up from any location convenient for you any other time.

mf44
04-19-2009, 10:10 AM
I cannot express how pleased I am with this school. It was absolutely incredible and I know I came away with some marked improvements. All of the instructors and organizers were really helpful; I wish I remembered everyones' names so I could thank all of you personally. But anyways, thanks to everyone for imparting some of your wonderful knowledge and experience to us.

And if anyone reading this is a novice and hasn't done the school, beg, bribe, do whatever you need to to get into the next one (be it this season or next). You will not be disappointed.

OK, well I'll see all of you on May 2!

Mike (the dude with the MINI)

mcoupemindy
04-19-2009, 02:39 PM
Loads of pictures here:

http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/showthread.php?t=4959

I'm pretty sure that Katie was able to take pictures of everyone.

mcoupemindy
04-19-2009, 03:08 PM
Jonathan, I guess I forgot to take the cones. Is it ok if I take them next event? Alternatively, I can pick those up from any location convenient for you any other time.

You didn't take a stack before you left?

I have bad news then, I don't have any for you. All the "old" cones were donated to the MSP facility as we've done in the past. I don't have any more for you.

mduhovich
04-19-2009, 03:22 PM
You didn't take a stack before you left?

I have bad news then, I don't have any for you. All the "old" cones were donated to the MSP facility as we've done in the past. I don't have any more for you.

That's fine:)

KatieT
04-19-2009, 04:10 PM
I'm pretty sure that Katie was able to take pictures of everyone.
I was...at least I think so. I know that I got everyone in one morning session (although not all of them turned out) and I'm pretty sure that I got everyone in the afternoon too. I even got some of the instructors when they went out.

~Katie

pseto
04-19-2009, 06:36 PM
i'd like to thank the entire autox committee and all the instructors who made yesterday's school so rewarding. I learned a lot about my lack of driving skills and intend to autox quite a bit this year to improve. My wife also had a great time (which I'm sure quite a few people heard the screams) and she has also said she'd like to do a few events as well. Everything was very well run and the skills we practiced were invaluable. i just wish it was a 2 day school :)

mduhovich
04-19-2009, 07:12 PM
i just wish it was a 2 day school :)
that would be great.. i checked some other clubs and some do school for different levels of experience. For instance, the first level is like we had yesterday. The second one does not have the class part and has some more driving time :)

mcoupemindy
04-19-2009, 07:42 PM
that would be great.. i checked some other clubs and some do school for different levels of experience. For instance, the first level is like we had yesterday. The second one does not have the class part and has some more driving time :)

Those schools have paid staff members. The reason that we can offer our schools at so little cost is that we are volunteer driven.

Asking instructors to volunteer for one day is acceptable; consuming a full weekend without compensation can rarely be justified.

I, however, am looking into planning a second school, more on a Test & Tune note. However, if planned, it will be at a significantly increased cost.

We have lots of ideas, just stay tuned to see what happens.

pseto
04-19-2009, 09:30 PM
Those schools have paid staff members. The reason that we can offer our schools at so little cost is that we are volunteer driven.

Asking instructors to volunteer for one day is acceptable; consuming a full weekend without compensation can rarely be justified.



thats so true. i appreciated the instructors volunteering their time to help us noobs. i could tell many other them wanted to jump in their cars to take a few runs and show us how to really run the course :)

pseto
04-20-2009, 01:06 PM
I was...at least I think so. I know that I got everyone in one morning session (although not all of them turned out) and I'm pretty sure that I got everyone in the afternoon too. I even got some of the instructors when they went out.

~Katie

nice pictures Katie, you got some great shots of me :)

i'm assuming you trashed the pics where i ate the cones or should i be sending a check somewhere?

KatieT
04-20-2009, 04:15 PM
nice pictures Katie, you got some great shots of me :)

i'm assuming you trashed the pics where i ate the cones or should i be sending a check somewhere?I only trash blurry pics. Any cone eating would be there if I got it. Gotta keep ya'll honest if I can :wink:.

~Katie

pseto
04-20-2009, 04:16 PM
I only trash blurry pics. Any cone eating would be there if I got it. Gotta keep ya'll honest if I can :wink:.

~Katie

good answer...no evidence

Jenson Button
04-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Katie,
Nice to meet you and thanks for posting the photos. What a beautiful day to play with cars. All the scraping of my airdam is making me consider larger sways...

ronh21
04-20-2009, 07:03 PM
I'd also like to thank all the people who put on the show Saturday. Honestly I wasn't sure I'd enjoy it at all, as autocross is way more intense/competitive than I usually care to get, but it was a great time. Everybody was having fun and being helpful.

I got plenty of good advice, but the but the best was this from Woody: "just go faster." So, I'll just keep trying to just go faster. This will be important because one of my goals is to catch Mike (the dude with the MINI), and he seems pretty darn fast :) The quest starts May 2nd.

On a side note, I put my M3 into the tire wall on the inside of turn nine at Summit Point this morning. Driver and instructor are OK, but the car now has battle scars (dented up drivers door and fender.) I was able to clean it up some and do three more sessions. There's mud everywhere inside the car. It could have been much worse.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg


Ron.
http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

Sammyzuko
04-20-2009, 08:12 PM
I'd also like to thank all the people who put on the show Saturday. Honestly I wasn't sure I'd enjoy it at all, as autocross is way more intense/competitive than I usually care to get, but it was a great time. Everybody was having fun and being helpful.

I got plenty of good advice, but the but the best was this from Woody: "just go faster." So, I'll just keep trying to just go faster. This will be important because one of my goals is to catch Mike (the dude with the MINI), and he seems pretty darn fast :) The quest starts May 2nd.

On a side note, I put my M3 into the tire wall on the inside of turn nine at Summit Point this morning. Driver and instructor are OK, but the car now has battle scars (dented up drivers door and fender.) I was able to clean it up some and do three more sessions. There's mud everywhere inside the car. It could have been much worse.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg


Ron.
http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
Ouch! Sorry to hear about the meeting with the wall:frown:. I've seen a number of cars lose it on turn nine. Hope you're able to get her back to new.

mf44
04-20-2009, 08:53 PM
I'd also like to thank all the people who put on the show Saturday. Honestly I wasn't sure I'd enjoy it at all, as autocross is way more intense/competitive than I usually care to get, but it was a great time. Everybody was having fun and being helpful.

I got plenty of good advice, but the but the best was this from Woody: "just go faster." So, I'll just keep trying to just go faster. This will be important because one of my goals is to catch Mike (the dude with the MINI), and he seems pretty darn fast :) The quest starts May 2nd.

On a side note, I put my M3 into the tire wall on the inside of turn nine at Summit Point this morning. Driver and instructor are OK, but the car now has battle scars (dented up drivers door and fender.) I was able to clean it up some and do three more sessions. There's mud everywhere inside the car. It could have been much worse.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg


Ron.
http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

Ron,

I think you'll catch me pretty easily. Most of my speed can be attributed to the car, and the rest was beginner's luck.

Oh man, I'm sorry to hear about Summit, but I'm glad you're OK. And the car doesn't look too bad either. It could have been a lot worse! Besides, dings add character.:biggrin:

By the way, what wheels do you have on your car?

Mike

woodym3
04-20-2009, 09:16 PM
On a side note, I put my M3 into the tire wall on the inside of turn nine at Summit Point this morning. Driver and instructor are OK, but the car now has battle scars (dented up drivers door and fender.) I was able to clean it up some and do three more sessions. There's mud everywhere inside the car. It could have been much worse.



It's no fun to come around Turn 9 and see someone you know's car against the tirewall. Second time that's happened to me in a month. It was nice to see you in good health and spirits after the incident Ron.
OK, back to the Autocross School topic.

Myopia
04-23-2009, 07:09 AM
Just to echo what everyone else has said, I really enjoyed and got a lot out of the school. The volunteer instructors couldn't have been nicer. A special thanks to Oker and Adam who both spent several runs with me. Thanks to Katie for taking some great pictures, and to all the club volunteers who enthusiastically put on a great show. Congrats to Mini man for putting us all to shame!

gbauer
04-23-2009, 12:50 PM
On a side note, I put my M3 into the tire wall on the inside of turn nine at Summit Point this morning. Driver and instructor are OK, but the car now has battle scars (dented up drivers door and fender.) I was able to clean it up some and do three more sessions. There's mud everywhere inside the car. It could have been much worse.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg


Ron.
http://forum.nccbmwcca.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/ronh21/20090420-20090420-_MG_3177.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
I feel for ya, man!


Mine wasn't racing, but it was the same end-result. I only WISH there were tires to dampen my hit!

I should have it back on Monday. That said, the original date was the 15th, then this Tuesday, then Wednesday, then tomorrow, now it's Monday... :mad:

Car54
04-23-2009, 09:21 PM
It's no fun to come around Turn 9 and see someone you know's car against the tirewall. Second time that's happened to me in a month. It was nice to see you in good health and spirits after the incident Ron.

+1

I hated seeing someone I had just watched have a blast at autox school then in the tires at T9.

Ron,

Here was that link and video I was talking about: http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=24803&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=40298eb49453bc72e9c8e88fce9615c0

It was great to see you ok with it and willing to get back on the horse.