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SharkD
12-28-2005, 07:20 PM
While searching for a cheap tow vehicle, I came across a 1995 M3 LTW (VIN: WBSBF932XSEH07424; 12K miles) that will be auctioned off by the Department of the Treasury in Edison, NJ on January 26.

http://www.treasury.gov/auctions/customs/edison.html

No affiliation, just figured someone here might be interested...

http://www.treasury.gov/auctions/customs/images/ed10.gif
(Ugly wheels, rusty rotors.)

odortiz
12-28-2005, 08:06 PM
i want.

odortiz
12-28-2005, 08:13 PM
wish the auction was on a weekend

SharkD
12-28-2005, 09:11 PM
Whoa, it has the rare optional BMW V6!

See -- even more collectable... ;)

1996 328ti
12-28-2005, 09:57 PM
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The story of this 1995 BMW M3 (WBSBF932XSEH07424) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This coupe has had 1 owner in New York. It was originally registered by the owner for personal use.
It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire or flood.
It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
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Year/Make/Model: 1995 BMW M3

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.0L L6 EFI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: GERMANY
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer





CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 3 record(s) for this 1995 BMW M3 (WBSBF932XSEH07424).

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09/26/1995 US Customs
Vehicle exported from
Germany
and imported to
Newark, NJ


11/15/1995 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
White Plains, NY
Registered as
personal vehicle


01/24/1996 2 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
New York, NY
Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported

Jed
12-28-2005, 11:54 PM
If that was a real LTW, I'd slap some angel eyes and 19" Hamanns on it then show that bad boy at import shows.

SharkD
12-29-2005, 12:04 AM
If that was a real LTW, I'd slap some angel eyes and 19" Hamanns on it then show that bad boy at import shows.
The VIN is sequential with documented LTWs... but I just realized that the rear wing isn't correct for an LTW (actually, it is), although it does have the front splitter... Is there any way to check if this was a factory LTW? (Terry checked the VIN, it is a real LTW.)

Jed
12-29-2005, 12:08 AM
The VIN is sequential with documented LTWs... but I just realized that the rear wing isn't correct for an LTW...

Hmmmmm... that could cost me major points at the big shows like HIN.

Jed
12-29-2005, 12:11 AM
The VIN is sequential with documented LTWs... but I just realized that the rear wing isn't correct for an LTW, although it does have the front splitter... Is there any way to check if this was a factory LTW?

Actually from what I recall, the famous LTW wing (with the pedestals) were part of a trunk kit (along with other parts). I believe the standard M3 wing came along or could be had with it.

EDIT: The standard M3 wing came with it and the GT spoiler were part of the trunk kit:

http://www.geocities.com/my325is/LightweightM3vsM3.html

Pinecone
12-29-2005, 03:47 PM
The pedestals are easily removeable, and in fact removing them for street makes a LOT of sense, since with them in place th ewing is just about centered in the rear view mirror, seriously obstructing the view.

The wing did come in the trunk (on easly cars, later ones had a form to fill out to order the special pieces). Also in the trunk were the X brace, strut brace, splitter and dual pickup oil pan. Everything except the oil pan are pretty readily available, for a price. The X brace later became standard on cabs. The strut brace is about $600, the splitter is about $1200. The oil pan, if you can find one, runs from $900 - $2000.

They list standard equipment as cassette radio, when real LTWs don't come with a radio (but the speakers and wiring are there).

OK, luckily I printed out the page from teh dissappeared yahoo groups LTW forum. Yes, EH07424 is listed in my source as being an LTW VIN.

tgmeyer
01-05-2006, 02:40 PM
http://www.treasury.gov/auctions/customs/images/ed10.gif
(Ugly wheels, rusty rotors.)

THAT can be removed very, very easily. :biggrin: I see a road trip in my future.

Dirichlet
01-05-2006, 04:55 PM
sigh.... if only I'd won that $300M powerball, it'd be all mine

unfortunately, I'll be happy if I can afford some new wheels (actual wheels, not a car) for this upcoming season...

though it will be in my dreams...

tgmeyer
01-06-2006, 09:40 AM
After some serious thought about this I have come to this conclusion. A car that is 11 model years old with 12k miles will need some serious work since it has not been driven. I.E. all the belts, hoses [coolant & brake], gaskets [valve, valley, pan, rear mains etc.] tires, and so on, will need attention, if not replacement. Nope, this is not the car for me. But...that MB CL500 looks sweet!
Tom

Alan
01-06-2006, 03:58 PM
Anyone care to WAG what price this will sell/auction for?

BahnBaum
01-07-2006, 02:42 PM
Anyone care to WAG what price this will sell/auction for?

$29K.

Alex

mlytle
01-09-2006, 09:53 PM
over in the track section of bf.com, someone actually went and looked at this car. i guess they can't give it away because it is a pos that has been in several accidents, poorly repaired and the interior is smoker damaged. suspension is shot. evidently it has been on ebay several times.

quote from the thread....
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The auction has ended..but that wasn't a sacm...rather a HORRIBLE example of an E36 M3 though.

I too saw this car and luckily for me it was local and both my brother and I have been looking for E36's. I got all excited to find this car and immediatly attempted to contact them via e-mail as I couldn't find a phone number. 3 days later I finally get a call back and arrange to see the car.

We get there...and the lot owner is driving the car every day...which is fine but you'd expect for them to at least vacuum the car before we show up right? It's being smoked in on a daily basis, there's a cigarette burn in the drivers cloth vader insert probably from the dealer, there's a stain in the alcantera in the rear that doesn't appear as though it's going to come out, The clips to hold the rear bench in place are broken,there are no floor mats in the car and it's winter here in Ohio hence the carpets are going through hell, the glove box door does not fit correctly, the trunk liner is greasy/dirty...and this is just the start.

There has been LOTS of body work on the car. Carfax verifies it's been in an accident and it would appear as though the entire front clip has been replaced/painted. Paint wasn't HORRIBLE but reassbembly was a nightmare. Under the hood you can see where it appears as though they lost the factory fasteners to mount the fenders up around the air box area and just used hardware store bolts to finish things up. The rear trunk also appears to have been painted and the clips holding the lining to the trunk are mostly broken. When you open the trunk it nearly slams off of the rear glass of the car because it needs new struts. The rear bumper has also been replaced and there are rub marks in the corners where it doesn't line up correctly and the origional red paint is showing through. The sideskirts appear to have rather bad paint and overspray on them. All windows are tinted except for the passengers door. Passenger door handle is very tight and seems to be binding. Door handles on the outside have been painted with what appears to be spray paint (you can see the black through the white because no primer was used and there's not enough paint on them.

Well...sounds like a good track car right (thats what I was looking for)...lets go for a drive. Mechanically the motor and tranny seemed fine and actually the car ran really well for a 95 with no apparent mods other than a catback. BUt it needed completely gone through in order to be mechanically sound. RTAB's def. need replaced as one stab of the gas and it nearly changed lanes on you. This also led me to be frightened of rear sub frame issues but I never got serious enough about the car to inspect further. Steering feel was VERY vague and floaty hence I'm guessing it will need front control arm bushings as well. Front rotors are slightly warped, rears are not warped but have rather large grooved in them. The dealer installed H&R sport springs on the stock shocks which by all means feel to be in need of replacement anyhow.

SharkD
01-09-2006, 10:54 PM
Marshall,

Do you have the URL? I searched BimmerFest and BimmerForums for this car & didn't see it or it's VIN -- just making sure that we're talking about the same M3 LTW.

BTW, I've also verified the VIN (EH07424) as an LTW (http://www.tripledistilled.com/ltw/index.htm).

mlytle
01-10-2006, 12:30 PM
Marshall,

Do you have the URL? I searched BimmerFest and BimmerForums for this car & didn't see it or it's VIN -- just making sure that we're talking about the same M3 LTW.

BTW, I've also verified the VIN (EH07424) as an LTW (http://www.tripledistilled.com/ltw/index.htm).

it is on the front page of the track forum on bimmerforums.com. it was posted in today. think the subj is ltw on ebay.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465025

schosports
01-10-2006, 12:45 PM
I've also verified the VIN (EH07424)Yup, it's real. Here's the offical data:

Vehicle information
VIN long WBSBF932XSEH07424
Type code BF93
Type M3 (USA)
Dev. series E36 (2)
Line 3
Body type COUPE
Steering LL
Door count 2
Engine S50US
Cubical capacity 3.00
Power 176
Transmision HECK
Gearbox MECH
Colour ALPINWEISS 3 (300)
Upholstery SONDERPOLSTERUNG/OHNE FARBANGABE (Z1XX)
Prod. date 1995-09-04
Order options
No. Description
243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
325 REAR SPOILER
710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
783 M FORGED WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE
818 MAIN BATTERY SWITCH
919 ALUMINIUM DOORS
925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE
940 SPECIAL REQUEST EQUIPMENT
Individual data
Remaining interior trim: N5SW
Processing individual
Sign "individual"
Z1XX Upholstery
Folgender Umfang ist in Stoff Hurrican uni anthrazit
(Sach.Nr. 2 138 309) darzustellen:
- Sportsitze vorne, wie Schl.Nr. 481
- Sitze hinten
- Kopfstützen
Folgender Umfang ist in Stoff Hurrican anthrazit/rot, 05-20
(Sach.Nr. 2 138 312) darzustellen:
- Sitzmittelbahnen vorne und hinten
Bodenteppich anthrazit vom E36/2 4-Zylinder.
Restliche Innenausstattung wie bei Leder Nappa schwarz,
Schl.Nr. N5SW
0940 Special request
S O N D E R S E R I E M 3 U S C S L
-----------------------------------------
Federung wie M3 ECE.
Dämpfung wie M3 ECE.
Hinterachsübersetzung verkürzt, 3,23:1 (Sach.Nr. 2 227 924)
- Frontspoiler/-Unterverkleidung analog M3 GT (BF99)
- Heckflügel wie SA 325, mit integrierter Bremsleuchte
- Stoßleiste Tür li/re mit Logo "BMW Motorsport International"
wie M3 GT (BF99)
verbauen.
- Heckscheibe und Ablegeboden wie M3 ECE.
- Schallisolierung und Antidröhnmatten reduziert
- Entfall Frontklappen/Heckklappenverkleidung
- Entfall Werkzeugkasten
* Kohlefaserverblendungen , Umfang wie M3 GT (BF99)
* Blende Einstieg in Kohlefaser-Optik mit "BMW Motorsport
International"-Logo wie M3 GT (BF99)

Doby
01-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Marshall, the car you're talking about is a 95 M3 with cloth vaders and no sunroof. This car at the auction is LTW.

SharkD
01-10-2006, 07:37 PM
it is on the front page of the track forum on bimmerforums.com. it was posted in today. think the subj is ltw on ebay.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465025

The LTW I'm talking about isn't on eBay, it's the subject of a Federal Government Tax Evasion auction.

mlytle
01-11-2006, 12:26 PM
in the words of a great snl comedienne....."NEVERMIND!"

geez, you would think i would pay more attention to the thread.....too many forums...too little thinking...

i now return you to the guessing as to how much the ltw at the gov't auction will go for...:)

SharkD
01-11-2006, 01:12 PM
No problem.

I'm guessing it'll go for around tree-fitty.

http://www.spscriptorium.com/Season3/ThomasAndNellieMcElroy.gif

pt///m3
01-14-2006, 10:35 PM
i now return you to the guessing as to how much the ltw at the gov't auction will go for...:)

A lot I am guessing, probably around $30K sadly if it is mint.

Anyone seen this one up close yet?

Pinecone
01-15-2006, 12:17 PM
If mint, and has all the LT Wparts, high $30K range would not be out of line. And get the wrong people involved, and it could go for more.

If some of the LTW stuff is missing, most of it can be found, but some parts (oil pan) are hard to find and NOT cheap.

tgmeyer
01-17-2006, 05:01 PM
If some of the LTW stuff is missing, most of it can be found, but some parts (oil pan) are hard to find and NOT cheap.

Want to learn, here. What's with the oil pan? Is it a dual sump?
Tom

BahnBaum
01-17-2006, 05:15 PM
http://AlexTBaum.smugmug.com/photos/52819572-L.jpg

http://AlexTBaum.smugmug.com/photos/52819641-L.jpg

Alex

tgmeyer
01-17-2006, 06:12 PM
Another "Ahhhh!" Dual pick ups. One on each side, I presume.

Pinecone
01-20-2006, 09:45 AM
Actually the front pickup is pumped to the rear section of the pan. So not a truely dual pickup, but serves the same purpose. Also larger sump with higher oil capacity.

pt///m3
01-26-2006, 01:29 PM
So, anyone here end up going?

Doby
01-26-2006, 08:32 PM
A guy named Bill on bimmerforums bought it.

SharkD
01-26-2006, 10:20 PM
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5772874&postcount=40

LoL ok this is the deal with the car.

previous owner was like some rap superstar or wannabe at least. Car been in storage for awhile. IRS pretty much took everything from this guy as why I needed to get a back round check so I wasn't purchasing it with the intent to give it back to him. The wheels will be used at the MSR Smoke out starring "themadhatters" Turbo 3. There was a pallet of goodies that also came with this car(shown at startups [prior day's engine tests and pre-auction viewings], but had to ask) the stock wheels were on the pallet and are in MINT NEW Condition. Besides the dumb easy removables this car is in excellent shape.

sqweeky clean carfax as well (like that means a thing)

pt///m3
01-27-2006, 10:25 AM
interesting thread!

old skool
02-03-2006, 11:41 PM
Nice!