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old skool
08-25-2005, 05:41 PM
So...give me the lowdown. No way I can use my brand new X50 B when I move to NoVa? From what I have read the cops seem to be intense. Is speeding basically out of the question?

1996 328ti
08-25-2005, 07:38 PM
So...give me the lowdown. No way I can use my brand new X50 B when I move to NoVa? From what I have read the cops seem to be intense. Is speeding basically out of the question?They can confiscate radar detectors although I don't know anyone who had to surrender it. Not sure if it is 20 or 22 over the limit is considered reckless and requires a court appearance. I think Fairfax County is the most brutal of the counties in NoVA. Good luck. Stay out of the left lane and welcome.

old skool
08-25-2005, 09:05 PM
Is there any point in even driving with one if it is so easy to get a ticket for it?

M-technik-3
08-25-2005, 09:29 PM
The roads and traffic here don't jive with speeding or weaving. Just face this is traffic gridlock on a daily basis. If you want to drive quick take a trip out to the Mtn's.

1996 328ti
08-25-2005, 09:39 PM
Is there any point in even driving with one if it is so easy to get a ticket for it?My tickets are generally written down as paced. I hardly get picked off by RADAR. I'm not saying a good RADAR detector is a waste. They have reminded me of the speed on more than several occasions. When you consider I66 is a 6 lane highway with a speed limit of 55, it's easy to find yourself going 70.

OwnedbyDuncan
08-26-2005, 06:36 AM
Places not speed Rossyln, Clarendon and Ballston corridor along WIlson and Clarendon Blvd. Speed limit is 25mph and enforced.
Rt 66 and beltway they start writing tickets at 68mph or 13mph over posted.
On secondary roads where the speed limit is 45 mph traffic typically non rush hour travels at about 60mph without ticket problems.

FCPD will strictly enforce speeding ins chool zones. They love to sit out front of WIllow Springs ELemnetary on Braddock Rd and write 20-30 tickets or more in 30 minutes.

20mph or more is a mandatory court appearance and a Class 1 misdemeanor not a just a traffic offense.

Typically on Rt 66 they set up speed traps Eastbound right before you get to the Rt 50 exit and the left ahnd side and inside the beltway right before Rt 7 exit. Westbound speed traps are after the entrance ramp from Fairfax Dr and before the exit for Falls Church. They also have a speed trap at the same point on Rt 66 after thr Rt 50 interchange. Then in the median after after Rt 7100. State Police and FCPD run these speed traps and they also use unmarked. FCPD has a 2004 Mustang and several unmarked Tahoes and Expeditions.

I dont speed in residential areas or in school zones. The town of Clifton strictly enforces the 25mph speed limit during rush hour.

When I used to work at the Washington Navy Yard I used to leave my house which is less than 5 minutes from Rt 66 and Rt 7100 at 0455 and be on the Navy Yard to get a close to my office parking spot by 0520hrs.

You cant run triple digit speeds on 95, 395, 495 and Rt 66 but 10mph is not a problem and traffic is usually running at about 70mph during non rush hour without a problem.

FCPD and VA State Police are predictable in where they run radar and speed enforcement.

OwnedbyDuncan
08-26-2005, 06:38 AM
BTW I have never owned a radar detector. Never needed one. And have not had a speeding ticket in about 10yrs.

Last ticket I got was an HOV violation on RT66 becasue I used the HOV lane to pass a bunch of slower cars. Better than the Reckless I could have got if the trooper had his radar up in running becasue I was at least 25mph over. AT that time jsut a fine and no point. ANd it wasn't a moving violation.

SharkD
08-26-2005, 08:37 AM
They can confiscate radar detectors although I don't know anyone who had to surrender it. Not sure if it is 20 or 22 over the limit is considered reckless and requires a court appearance.


According to a couple of friends of mine on the force in Arlington & Alexandria, 20 over the limit, or anything in excess of 80mph is considered reckless & the HOV lanes on 395 are considered fertile ground for speeding tickets and reckless citations.

old skool
08-26-2005, 01:27 PM
I never used to carry a detector, however I received two tickets in 6 mo-a year after buying the BMW. (I wasn't speeding any more than normal)

The last ticket I was driving on a freeway that has no area on the right or left for a cop to sit and traffic flows at 70 every day but the speed limit is 55. I was in traffic, going the speed limit, got over into the long (and fun) exit ramp with no one in front of me and immediately mashed the gas. As soon as I looked up, I saw a cop sitting in the hashed white "V" that separates the exit ramp from the rest of the freeway and he got me with laser. I was going 90 I think. That sucked big time. I fought it and got the reckless removed and the ticket reduced. However it cost me a lot of money.

So now I have 4 points on my licence and I have to wait for 3 years to dump those tickets and will experience increased insurance cost. The other time was the same basic situation, traffic was blocking view of the cop, "hiding" on the side of the road, I pull off right to go on to the freeway and get tagged with laser.

Now that I have the radar detector, I realize no cops here use radar. They don't drive with radar on either. They all use laser. However, twice since I got the detector I have picked up the laser in traffic and slowed down while I was still out of view of the cops.

Nick325xiT 5spd
08-26-2005, 01:40 PM
I never used to carry a detector, however I received two tickets in 6 mo-a year after buying the BMW. (I wasn't speeding any more than normal)

The last ticket I was driving on a freeway that has no area on the right or left for a cop to sit and traffic flows at 70 every day but the speed limit is 55. I was in traffic, going the speed limit, got over into the long (and fun) exit ramp with no one in front of me and immediately mashed the gas. As soon as I looked up, I saw a cop sitting in the hashed white "V" that separates the exit ramp from the rest of the freeway and he got me with laser. I was going 90 I think. That sucked big time. I fought it and got the reckless removed and the ticket reduced. However it cost me a lot of money.

So now I have 4 points on my licence and I have to wait for 3 years to dump those tickets and will experience increased insurance cost. The other time was the same basic situation, traffic was blocking view of the cop, "hiding" on the side of the road, I pull off right to go on to the freeway and get tagged with laser.

Now that I have the radar detector, I realize no cops here use radar. They don't drive with radar on either. They all use laser. However, twice since I got the detector I have picked up the laser in traffic and slowed down while I was still out of view of the cops.
Lidatek. Period. End oif story.

old skool
08-26-2005, 01:46 PM
Is that legal and can it be detected? Does it work?

Nick325xiT 5spd
08-26-2005, 02:06 PM
Yes it works. VERY WELL. It can only be detected by a laser gun that doesn't doesn't get a reading/throws up an error message. This has never been a problem for me.

It's not legal in 8 states. But so what?

old skool
08-26-2005, 02:10 PM
Any info on brand/where to buy? Do they use a lot of laser in the DC/VA/MD area?

Nick325xiT 5spd
08-26-2005, 04:18 PM
Any info on brand/where to buy? Do they use a lot of laser in the DC/VA/MD area?
Dude, google "lidatek"

old skool
08-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Dude, google "lidatek"
Thanks. :wink:
I already did that.
I guess what I am asking is for feedback from those of you who drive in the area every day: do the cops use laser often, does it work in your experience.

No big deal though. I will probably just see what I think after driving around for a month or so.

OwnedbyDuncan
08-26-2005, 06:24 PM
And dont forget in the Commonwealth of VA you can be charged with Aggressive Driving by exercising your Consitutional rights by giving someone the finger. Again a Class 1 misdemeanor.

OwnedbyDuncan
08-26-2005, 06:34 PM
Fairfax County does especailly in the area around Rt 29 and Rt 7100. I got pulled over back in January when I passed on RT 29 underneath 7100. Was doing about 50mph in 45 at about 200pm. I knew that they hang out there. Was I surprised when Officer Stupid pointed me over since I wasn't going fast enough for a speeding ticket. Officer asked how fast I was going. Yeah right Officer I am going to admit to speeding. I said I dont wish to say. He gave me some line of BS. And finally stated he wasn't going to charge me. I said approx 50mph. He said the laser showed 85mph. I said right. Told him I knew that he and his unit hung out there and I wasn't going to drive fast enough for him to write me a ticket. Suggested he recalibrate. I left. Still wander about this.

They use laser also on 7100 both east and west bound about two miles North of the light at Burke Center Parkway. Laser and radar is used extensively in the town of Clifton especially during rush hour and on Saturday and Sunday morning they sit in spur for Clifton Elementary School off Clifton Rd nailing people on Clifton Rd.

Pinecone
09-08-2005, 08:21 PM
Another choice is the Escort SRX which is a combo built in unit, or the add on unit for laser "shifting" only.

I have an SRX in the E46 M3 and it works very well.

Sigfod
09-10-2005, 11:01 AM
I like the Valentine One. Technically it is Illegal for VA to not allow Radar and Laser Detectors. FCC has a mandate allowing any US citizen to have knowledge of any frequency broadcast in the US. This was fought once and won. I don't know the specific case, and have not had time to find it, but if you do please let us know.

charlesstiles
12-18-2006, 11:32 AM
The law is pretty clear on radar detectors in VA, their illegal and you can be ticketed for having one on either of two conditions: 1) if it is powered and receiving current or 2) if it is within reach of the driver. The ticket is $40 as I recall but they cannot confiscate the radar detector permanently. If the officer feels it si going to go to court, they can take the radar detector until your court date to prove you had one, but that is all. The charge, carries with it, no points.

With that in mind, I'm not concerned with the legality of the radar detector and three or four of those tickets will undoubtedly be cheaper than any speeding ticket let alone the time I lose if I get stopped. I don't drive like a maniac and I haven't had a ticket in 15 years with the exception of a friendly Delaware State Police Officer that said I was going too fast through a toll lane. None-the-less, the advance warning may provide some added piece of mind. With a remote unit you could probably argue that the detector itself was out of reach and as long as it was turned off by the time the officer gets to your car you can argue that it isn't on.

The unit I have chosen is a Beltronics Radar/Laser detector with voice notification and silence feature. Not only does it have an impressive radar antennae, but it has three laser transceivers (two for the front and one for the rear) that prevent laser detection. Once it detects lasers though, you have to hammer the brake and turn on the silence feature as the police will receive a 0 reading while the unit is running- Get down to posted speed and turn it off. DO NOT USE A RADAR JAMMER there is a $50K penalty along with up to five years in jail. Laser jammers carry the same $40 penalty as radar detectors. Additionally, this unit provides voice warnings of the type of detection, frequency and strength. It also uses the radar band intended for emergency vehicle notifications, construction areas and draw bridge openings. This provides a heads up when a fire truck or ambulance is approaching and you need to get out of the way or a drawbridge is opening and you don't feel like using it for a ramp :-) .

Getting this thing installed looks to be a real chore so I am going to turn to the guys at Myer Emco and hope they do a class job. I'll post on my experience. Until then (Wednesday) I'll just putt putt around in my Z4.

-Charles

ca1242
01-10-2007, 04:26 PM
I live in MD. Laser is used a lot in MD, I see mostly laser used by state police in VA, Laser in DC by MP and Laser/radar by park police.

I have a V1 detector and Escort ZR3 laser jammer in my own car. Both concealed (no concerns about someone noticing them) and both have saved me many times. There are many ways to hide radar/laser detectors.

RJHOLLAS
07-16-2007, 09:56 AM
I've ordered a Belltronic STi due to these insane $3000+ VA tickets fines. However, I need to fine a good shop or DIY to conceal the detector. Any good shops in MD?

Timothy Sullivan
07-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Thanks. :wink:
I already did that.
I guess what I am asking is for feedback from those of you who drive in the area every day: do the cops use laser often, does it work in your experience.

No big deal though. I will probably just see what I think after driving around for a month or so.

Drive in Maryland mostly interstate 270 and 70. Police are always using Lidar or VASCAR (timing point to point). Do not own any detection devices just heads up driving. I have a two friends who have one of the integrated radar, laser detector, laser jammer K40 systems. They both have stories of going through laser speed traps with the police unable to get a speed. They will not help with VASCAR but reduces your exposure.

Maryland does not have immediate reckless driving for 20mph over limit. They leave that up to the officer to decide if you are reckless.

Ethan Blank
04-22-2009, 08:40 AM
Any thoughts/suggestions on radar/laser?

My wife's MDX was broken into in our driveway the other night, my Valentine 1 was in her car and stolen (along with the Sirius radio set up).

Our deductible is too high on our insurance to make it worth reporting the theft, but I am going to replace the V1.

I bought the V1 about 5 years ago, so I haven't done any research in quite a while. Should I replace it with another V1, or is there another unit that has improved on the V1 technology and features? I never really thought about a laser jammer, but is that worth looking into?

I live in MD, so I'm not concerned with the VA law on radar. The V1 has saved me a bunch of times, I think I need some protection!

Thanks for any suggestions.

woodym3
04-22-2009, 08:52 AM
I don't own a detector, but done close to 40,000 miles with a Valentine on six One Lap of Americas. I love their ability to show the direction and number of radar signals being received.

pseto
04-22-2009, 09:35 AM
V1 only for me, although i'll admit i'm not up-to-date with radar detector technology nowadays.

Ethan Blank
04-22-2009, 10:14 AM
I was very happy with the V1, it's worked well for me.

I recall some club members saying that they use detectors other than the V1, I figured since the criminal element in Howard County forced me to be a consumer again, I should revisist the market to see what's changed in 5 years.

One of the BMW parts magazines I get (can't recall which at the moment) has a shield that you put over the license plate, allegedly this prevents the laser beam from registering. Anyone bought that? I think I saw it on a truck at a parking lot, it distorts the license plate but you can still read it up close.

The one ticket I got with the V1 was a laser ticket. Of course, all the V1 is good for then is letting you know you are getting the ticket! I love the V1 for radar, it is virtually useless for laser (as is any laser detector other than a jammer or the license plate thing; I know of no other way to defeat the laser beam).

pseto
04-22-2009, 10:32 AM
I was very happy with the V1, it's worked well for me.

I recall some club members saying that they use detectors other than the V1, I figured since the criminal element in Howard County forced me to be a consumer again, I should revisist the market to see what's changed in 5 years.

One of the BMW parts magazines I get (can't recall which at the moment) has a shield that you put over the license plate, allegedly this prevents the laser beam from registering. Anyone bought that? I think I saw it on a truck at a parking lot, it distorts the license plate but you can still read it up close.

The one ticket I got with the V1 was a laser ticket. Of course, all the V1 is good for then is letting you know you are getting the ticket! I love the V1 for radar, it is virtually useless for laser (as is any laser detector other than a jammer or the license plate thing; I know of no other way to defeat the laser beam).

did they breakin while your car was parked outside your house? hopefully the criminals will stay away from me.

i've seen that license plate cover before and i'm pretty sure its illegal. not that its gonna stop you from getting one :)

i dont think many cops around here use laser, most use older technology. i just end rolling the dice with laser since a jammer can get quite expensive

Ethan Blank
04-22-2009, 11:06 AM
I would never break the law (says a lawyer....) ..... (so as to get caught).

The MDX was broken into overnight in our driveway. I was the last one to use it, and I locked and armed the alarm (I do that every time out of habit, having lived and parked in NYC). No sign of damage to the car, so I can't figure out how they got in.

The scary part is that once in the car, they can open the garage door!

ldsbeaker
04-22-2009, 08:18 PM
I bought a Escort 9500i last year, and it paid for itself within a couple months. (I was delivering pizza at the time)
In fact, I liked it so much, I bought ANOTHER one (9500ix), and gave the old one to my wife.
This thing is AWESOME. X, K, Ka, Laser, you name it. The 9500ix is GPS enabled, and has a database of 90% of the red light cameras in use (updateable, for $$) , plus you can mark speed traps, and block out non-bogey signals. That is so awesome. I know when it goes off (in an area I'm familiar with) that I'm getting pinged by a bad guy. AND I use this thing as a speedometer, since my stretched tires don't quite keep the speedometer correct. Everytime it alerts me, there he is. Hasn't been wrong yet.
In expert mode, you can see if you're being pinged by multiple bogeys.
No, this thing doesn't have arrows. I've come to realize that I don't need them. All I need to know is that there's an emitter around. If you have one, you know... You can pretty much figure out where he is by how the signal ramps up, or comes and goes, etc.. It's a fun game that both my wife and I enjoy. Nine times out of 10, I pick up a signal LONG before I see them, but there have been some close calls. I don't drive much in VA, but I used to run it on the passenger seat, and it still picked up stuff, but not as well. I run mine way up in the windshield, so I just run it in VA now. Screw 'em if they can't take a joke.

A radar detector does not substitute for common sense/paying attention/instincts.
Just today, I was first in line at a light, and I had just gotten up to speed. I was about to start really jamming, but looked in my rear view mirror, and noticed a slick top in the other lane behind a couple other cars. No signal. That could have been bad.

So this is my review of the Escort 9500i. 5 stars, two thumbs up, no tix, however you slice it, it's AWESOME.
(In fact, after running one for over a year, I wonder how people can do it. How they can drive so fast with no awareness of what's around them... I call it driving "naked", and that's exactly how I feel without a radar detector now)

Zcruizer
04-23-2009, 06:58 AM
My advice about driving in VA is to not even have your detector out. They do have units that detect our units, I've seen them. Because they're illegal, the judge won't care if the cop isn't telling the truth about whether or not it was turned on. If he sees it in your windsheild or wherever he can pull you over. Not because he has the right, but the ability to screw you. I have experience at the county and state level. The bottom line is money. Fines and drivers ed will get you out of most trouble. Driving 20 miles over the posted limit is considered reckless and an arresting offense. Guess how I didn't get arrested. I paid the fine right there on the side of the road. Then, of course, I went to court to fight it. Had legal help. I hate driving in VA, the government has free run over it's citizens. Then again, the citizens accept it. All in the name of saftey, I guess. That last comment if probably for another thread.

woodym3
04-23-2009, 07:23 AM
i dont think many cops around here use laser, most use older technology. i just end rolling the dice with laser since a jammer can get quite expensive

They use laser in Arlington County.

pranu
05-01-2009, 01:23 PM
... it is virtually useless for laser (as is any laser detector other than a jammer or the license plate thing; I know of no other way to defeat the laser beam).


I disagree with the sentiment above. I use a V1 as soon as I cross statelines out of DC and VA. And I will admit that it has saved me a few times from being caught due to laser.

The theory behind using the laser detection is to hopefully get a warning as soon as someone else is laser tagged and you get a portion of the beam due to reflection/refraction or any other way.

There have been instances where as soon as the laser warning goes off - I have slammed the brakes only to go over a crest of a hill or come out of an underpass and notice a bogey on the shoulder of the road.

I love my V1 - and it definitely has earned its keep. :)

Ethan Blank
05-01-2009, 01:50 PM
Agree generally, up until my V1 was stolen I was very happy with it (I got it about 8 years ago or so, I forget it's been so long!).

Now that I have to replace it, I'm looking at the situation again.

One argument I'm seeing in reviews is that although V1 is very good, and continues to be very good, it hasn't been updated in a long time.

I am considering the Escort with GPS. I like the fact that the red light cameras and speed traps are downloadable and in the unit (although I don't like the periodic cost). And, for radar, some tests show the Escort to be better than the V1 in terms of sensitivity. Not having the direction and number of bogeys is a downside, but I believe that Escort does show the signal strengths. It does appear to be less sensitive on the laser side, but I am considering a front/rear laser jamming set up, which would work in tandem with the Escort.

The V1 is great, but I did get a laser speed ticket while running the V1 in NY, and the only thing I could do when that annoying sound went off is reach for the checkbook. Your reaction time as to be incredibly fast, or you get lucky enough to have a reflection from another car, to avoid a laser ticket. More often than not, I was ignoring (or turning off) the V1 laser alerts due to the cruise control/lane control in some cars that continually activates the V1 laser alert. Probably would have the same problem in the Escort too.