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1996 328ti
04-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Registration now open.
f you have never driven on a track before, but would like to try, or if you have no idea what an apex is, but would like to learn how to corner better, or if you want to learn the basics of car control in a safe environment, or if you just want to come out and improve your skills, then this two-day event is definitely for you. To learn more about the track, go to www.virclub.com.
Registration is open only to members of the Audi Club North America, BMW Car Club of America, or Mercedes-Benz Club of America. Membership dues for each of these clubs:

* $44 - Audi Club North America
* $40 - BMW CCA
* $45 - Mercedes-Benz Club of America

The registration fee is $365 for each driver. Each registered student driver gets one ticket for the Thursday evening banquet. After May 20, the registration fee rises to $395. Additional banquet tickets for guests may be purchased at the event for $25 each.

http://www.gws-mbca.org/MarqueMadness.html

dbonner
04-05-2007, 09:55 AM
And, if you can't wait till June to get out on a fun track, registration for GVC's May 12-13 (Sat.-Sun.) Drivers School at Watkins Glen opens today:

http://www.gvc-bmwcca.org/drivingSchool/WhatsNew.aspx

woodym3
05-02-2007, 08:18 AM
If you watched either of the Rolex Grand-Am races this past weekend you heard the announcers and drivers raving about the awesome VIR full course.
Well the Marque Madness school will be your chance to drive this very same circuit. See registration information in post #1.

1996 328ti
05-02-2007, 12:17 PM
If you watched either of the Rolex Grand-Am races this past weekend you heard the announcers and drivers raving about the awesome VIR full course.
Well the Marque Madness school will be your chance to drive this very same circuit. See registration information in post #1.I watched the race this weekend. Nice spin on the front straight. Porsche spins, goes off to the right and right back on the track in between cars. Good heads up on everyone's part.

But after watching the two races, I really need to do the 4 days.
Don't know how to gently break it to Florence. :)
She's in SC and will have the dogs. I don't know where I will be.
My house will probably be packed up and in storage but I'm keeping my tires, pads and tools handy. I'll probably just store them in the car just in case.:tongue:

Woody, were you at VIR? I could have sworn I saw you on camera.

woodym3
05-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Woody, were you at VIR? I could have sworn I saw you on camera.

No, I our autocross Saturday and a pre-One Lap party Saturday night. I thought the camera work on the TV coverage was great.

Scotty
05-02-2007, 08:58 PM
Just finished watching the two races. Looks like they had wonderful weather. Enjoyed the commentators, too. Dorsey yelling "wow!" during the replay of the immaculate wipeout at 1 was hilarious.

I ran the VIR full course for the first time at the end of March. Brand new H&R race springs and Bilstein sports, I had no idea what to expect. It turned out to be an incredible weekend. The Climbing Esses and the Roller Coaster are truly turns to be reckoned with. Steel yourself and push as hard as you dare - one way or another, you WILL be rewarded!

fpol
05-03-2007, 07:22 PM
In 05 I'd been waiting for 10 years to finally drive Watkins Glen. One month later I drove VIR and haven't been back to WG since. Including MarqueMadness i hope to have 10 days minimum on Main by the end of this year (going back in August for Car Guys and might add Mazda on Full in September to make it 12). If i had faith in my car doing 4 straight days I would sign up for all 4 in June.

I've got the last 3 years of Grand Am from VIR on DVD - only wish ALMS ran there.

ChosenGSR
05-03-2007, 08:53 PM
In 05 I'd been waiting for 10 years to finally drive Watkins Glen. One month later I drove VIR and haven't been back to WG since. Including MarqueMadness i hope to have 10 days minimum on Main by the end of this year (going back in August for Car Guys and might add Mazda on Full in September to make it 12). If i had faith in my car doing 4 straight days I would sign up for all 4 in June.

I've got the last 3 years of Grand Am from VIR on DVD - only wish ALMS ran there.

Addictive like crack eh?

ChosenGSR
05-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Does anyone know if there are still spots open for this event? I might pull the trigger on this.

Edit: Joe confirmed that this is still open...

Rafgar
05-11-2007, 11:45 AM
Spots are still open for both students and instructors.

This is a fun, low-key event. Having participants from all three clubs participating means that you will see an insteresting assortment of vehicles.

All registration is handled via the GWS Mercedes website - quick and simple.

As mentioned, VIR is a teriffic location. Fast and fun. There are highly technical corners that reward controlled and precise driving. It is also a very forgiving track with lots of run-off room.

I will be heading up to this event from Atlanta.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or send me a PM.


Does anyone know if there are still spots open for this event? I might pull the trigger on this.

Edit: Joe confirmed that this is still open...

ChosenGSR
05-11-2007, 06:54 PM
Rafael is exactly right. I was at the event last year, and signed up again this year. It really doesn't get much better than VIR full. It's fantastic. BTW, GWS Mercedes registration system is off da hook. No need to mail anything and the payment can be done through PayPal or CC directly (using paypal underneath).

Rafgar
05-12-2007, 09:17 AM
Alex,

So, "off da hook" is a good thing, right?

I was a bit worried that I had to call Joe and have him fix the registration. :wink:

Seriously, thanks for the support. We are going to order up some good weather once again this year.

Thanks,



Rafael is exactly right. I was at the event last year, and signed up again this year. It really doesn't get much better than VIR full. It's fantastic. BTW, GWS Mercedes registration system is off da hook. No need to mail anything and the payment can be done through PayPal or CC directly (using paypal underneath).

ChosenGSR
05-12-2007, 02:26 PM
Alex,

So, "off da hook" is a good thing, right?

I was a bit worried that I had to call Joe and have him fix the registration. :wink:

Seriously, thanks for the support. We are going to order up some good weather once again this year.

Thanks,

:icon_lol: It's a great thing. I am hoping one day we'll move to similar style registration. Looking forward to this event. I got another member to register earlier today :icon_yes:

jkuper
05-14-2007, 01:15 PM
Alex,

So, "off da hook" is a good thing, right?

I was a bit worried that I had to call Joe and have him fix the registration. :wink:

Seriously, thanks for the support. We are going to order up some good weather once again this year.

Thanks,

:biggrin: Rafael, did you have look it up? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=off+da+hook

Rafgar
05-14-2007, 07:51 PM
Jason,

I'm not that old!

Or, should I just add this :icon_gran to my sig and pretend I'm Woody? :biggrin:

Real M3
05-15-2007, 10:50 AM
Jason,

I'm not that old!

Or, should I just add this :icon_gran to my sig and pretend I'm Woody? :biggrin:


OK, enough of the geezer jokes here. I'm somewhat sensitive about that topic!

woodym3
05-15-2007, 12:14 PM
Hey, what little hair I have left isn't as gray as Rafael's.

On a more serious note, as of last night there were 66 students signed up. If you're sitting on the fence (look that one up Jason), I wouldn't wait too long.
Woody

1996 328ti
05-15-2007, 12:39 PM
Don't think I can get time off the new job yet. :(

woodym3
05-15-2007, 03:16 PM
Tell Wynne you need to do a case study on how three different car clubs can come together to pull off a great drivers school on a fabulous race track.

Rafgar
05-15-2007, 08:39 PM
Steven,

Dang (look that one up), Woody beat me to it. I'll call Wynne and tell her that we need you to help us run the event correctly.

Want me to stop in Greenville so we can caravan up to VIR from down South?

1996 328ti
05-15-2007, 09:11 PM
Tell Wynne you need to do a case study on how three different car clubs can come together to pull off a great drivers school on a fabulous race track.


Steven,

Dang (look that one up), Woody beat me to it. I'll call Wynne and tell her that we need you to help us run the event correctly.

Want me to stop in Greenville so we can caravan up to VIR from down South?I could take as unpaid leave. :)
Timing is bad on this one.

Jenson Button
05-16-2007, 08:46 AM
I have an appointment with a very successful 1 Lap driver for some instructor instruction, right Woody? BTW I'll have Vader since I have never been there and need to learn the course on the Q-T.

Rafgar
05-16-2007, 12:05 PM
Bob,

Have you been cleared by the chief instructor?

It is a very complicated process.

I think you need to provide a comprehensive driving history - and you lose points for having a black car.

Then again, since I know you (and I respect your driving abilities), maybe we can let you in. :icon_mrgr

Did I mention that I'm the CI for this event? :icon_eek:

woodym3
05-30-2007, 04:47 PM
The cut off time to avoid a late signup fee has been extended to June 1. There are still a few openings but they won't last long. Better sign up now.

jkuper
05-30-2007, 04:51 PM
What about cancellations with a medical reason? (not for me). Serious question.

1996 328ti
05-30-2007, 04:51 PM
The cut off time to avoid a late signup fee has been extended to June 1. There are still a few openings but they won't last long. Better sign up now.
I wish.:mad:
It's too early to take time off.

Rafgar
05-31-2007, 11:23 AM
Jason,

We are quite flexible with situations like this. Getting notice sooner rather than later would be appreciated. Have the person send Joe Wozney (the registrar with GWS Mercedes Benz Club) a note. His email address is on the registration webpage:

http://www.gws-mbca.org/MarqueMadness.html




What about cancellations with a medical reason? (not for me). Serious question.

jkuper
05-31-2007, 11:34 AM
Jason,

We are quite flexible with situations like this. Getting notice sooner rather than later would be appreciated. Have the person send Joe Wozney (the registrar with GWS Mercedes Benz Club) a note. His email address is on the registration webpage:

http://www.gws-mbca.org/MarqueMadness.html

Rafael,

Thanks, that's basically what I told him to do, problem is he's not 100% sure of how it will be in 2 weeks and he doesn't WANT to miss the event.

woodym3
06-05-2007, 07:55 AM
Anybody close to the DC Beltway taking a truck big enough to haul my four track tires? I can deliver to your house.

Real M3
06-07-2007, 09:07 AM
Anybody close to the DC Beltway taking a truck big enough to haul my four track tires? I can deliver to your house.

Heh, seems like you need to talk to Neil about his trailer for the week!

YOU DO have a trailer hitch for the Coupe, don't you!

jkuper
06-07-2007, 09:10 AM
I think Neil is going

Anyone wants to split a room at the Pit Suites? 59/night each incl tax

fpol
06-08-2007, 03:56 PM
Any idea if BMW CCA members running below advanced in MMIII will get CCA instructors? I'm not a BMW snob by any means as I attend other club events and have had excellent instruction there as well, but when given the opportunity I'd prefer someone who's been through the Academy as sometimes others can be hit and miss.

e30m3sm
06-09-2007, 04:57 PM
Anybody close to the DC Beltway taking a truck big enough to haul my four track tires? I can deliver to your house.

Woody: I am coming down Fri AM for the MazdaDrivers school at the GE. Sorry but I don't think they will fit in my spec miata.:biggrin:

The rebuilt S14 is going back into my car next week but not in time to be broken-in by the weekend.:frown:

See ya down there!

Gerry

magnetic1
06-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Awesome event. Glad to see everyone out there!

Neil, had fun playing with you, next time we will set another personal record for ya!

ChosenGSR
06-17-2007, 06:34 AM
Awesome event. Glad to see everyone out there!


It was a very fun event! I was fortunate to have Woody as my instructor :icon_clap Thanks again Woody for your time! I certainly learned a lot.

Jenson Button
06-18-2007, 08:22 AM
He helped me learn the track and was a big help when he reminded me to brake going into hog pens.

I also want to thank Joella John for filling me in on many little tricks and tidbits. The turn-in points and brake-points really helped.

I had never been to VIR, but I am sure I will be back. It is a great place, but I sure felt slow compared to the GT3s and Turbo Porsches. No need to lift when pointing them by!

Finally thanks to Raphael. Too bad about all the bent metal and busted toys, but at least nobody was hurt.

woodym3
06-18-2007, 01:16 PM
It was a very fun event! I was fortunate to have Woody as my instructor :icon_clap Thanks again Woody for your time! I certainly learned a lot.

It was fun riding with you Alex. I never knew who "Chosen GSR" was until just now.

e30m3sm
06-18-2007, 08:13 PM
There was no bent sheet metal or any incidents at the MazdaDrivers event which immediately followed on the Grand East course and we had 160 students and 71 instructors!

Gerry Chan

fpol
06-18-2007, 08:18 PM
I don't think there was any issues the second day of MMIII either. It was just one of those freakesh things, people just seemed to have a bad day. I don't think this was down to bad instruction or a poorly managed event.

I was at a day at summit recently run fairly 'loosely'- and there was no bent metal, so it can just be the luck of the draw sometimes.

160 students on grand east. And no parades?

woodym3
06-19-2007, 07:10 AM
160 students on grand east. And no parades?

40 cars can spread out quite a bit over 4.2 miles and 5 passing zones.

Real M3
06-19-2007, 07:37 AM
40 cars can spread out quite a bit over 4.2 miles and 5 passing zones.

And the Vettes kept trying to park in the grass!:biggrin:

It was a great DE overall with lots of track time, of course Gerry kept wishing he had his Real M3 out of the shop and kept eyeing mine.

Looking forward to the Shenandoah in July!

fpol
06-19-2007, 10:46 AM
40 cars can spread out quite a bit over 4.2 miles and 5 passing zones.


Hmm that's my bad. For some reason I was picturing the North Course which would seem short for 40 cars per and with fewer (2?) passing zones except for Instructors. Grand would I guess be the optimum layout for a large run group without reinforcing the deficiencies of the HP challenged like say Road America might.

dbonner
06-21-2007, 05:45 AM
Too bad about all the bent metal and busted toys, but at least nobody was hurt.

Which cars got bent? Where are on the track and how (without naming names of course).

BonBahn

Jenson Button
06-25-2007, 11:52 AM
e36 busted control arm bolt = into armco with fender damage
e36 dropped tire on warm up lap, yanked back on track, pretty major armco damage.
944 turbo off uphill esses. got scared and lifted. armco damage to right side.
s2000 granaded motor from mechanical over-rev from wrong gear into 1.
e36 genaded clutch downshifting into 1. Recovered coupon from bell housing.

I am sure there are more that I forgot, but the 2nd day was much smoother.

Rafgar
06-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Bob (aka Jenson),

See, this is why you should not work from "memory".

The e36 with the control arm failure did not hit anything. He went off in a danger zone and could not be driven, so we had to shorten that instructor session and send a tow truck to get him.
Neither the blown motor nor the blown clutch resulted in bent sheet metal and both drivers were able to pull off safely.

The e36 wiped out the front end into the armco as you described.

The 944 resulted in some sheet metal damage - but this was the husband of an instructor driving her fully prepared (full cage, etc) race car. I actually received an email from them the Monday after the event, where they thanked me for a good event.

ChosenGSR
07-05-2007, 10:07 PM
Here are some really good pictures by Joe Wozney from the event.

http://picasaweb.google.com/joewozney

I think having Woody in my car scared Joe off, not one picture of the M3 in there :icon_snif