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1996 328ti
01-23-2007, 08:58 PM
Here's a little unofficial poll.
Would you use PayPal to pay for driving schools?

Zchild
01-23-2007, 09:23 PM
:icon_poke I think we should use Paypal for everything we can purchase on the site. Including parties and DIY's. Just my two and a half cents worth. Happy Motoring...
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1996 328ti
01-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Although using PayPal creates another job for someone.
Guess who. :)

hoyabmw
01-23-2007, 10:42 PM
where's the option for I might, but don't really care?

If I have to send paperwork in anyway, I'm perfectly happy to deal with a check. But I can certainly see the benefit of making paypal an option.

1996 328ti
01-23-2007, 10:53 PM
If I have to send paperwork in anyway, I'm perfectly happy to deal with a check. But I can certainly see the benefit of making paypal an option.We would do without sending in the paperwork. In one way it creates more work for the registrar being that he needs to check for more things in the morning at the school. But on the other hand he wouldn't have to open 100 envelopes.

ChosenGSR
01-24-2007, 07:13 AM
How would this work? Would we have to send money only after we got admitted? Also, wouldn't you have to raise the admission fee due to pay pal's fees?

1996 328ti
01-24-2007, 07:36 AM
How would this work? Would we have to send money only after we got admitted? Also, wouldn't you have to raise the admission fee due to pay pal's fees?One method would be to dim the submit button until paid. This can be done automatically. You would see a PAID on the form just as NCC members may have noticed Chapter member: VERIFIED. It would be double work to have people pay after being accepted. Not everyone who pre-registers mail in their form. For the people that don't trust paypal, we can accept a check before the registration period opens.

We could close registration once we know it's full with a waitlist, but that skews our data because we keep track of how many people applied to the school. Refunds would go out 2 weeks before the school since that is when we no longer change the assignments.

We got over the hump of not everyone owns a computer.
We can get over PayPal.

It's too soon to think about changing fees.
And this is all speculation. I am just trying to think things through.
It is up to the board and more importantly, the registrar.

Dirichlet
01-24-2007, 09:28 AM
One concern is the % that PayPal charges... I know it's small, but I still hate paying it.

profbooty
01-24-2007, 10:56 AM
One concern is the % that PayPal charges... I know it's small, but I still hate paying it.

depends on if you are willing to accept credit cards or not. if you refuse to accept payments from them then there shouldnt be a charge, as your account wont be converted to a commerical account.

M-technik-3
01-24-2007, 12:33 PM
Paypal just increased their fees right?

jkuper
01-25-2007, 07:47 AM
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees

Personally, I'd be all for not dealing with the paperwork. But I am fine with it as well.

Edit: linky no worky no mo for some reason

ChosenGSR
01-25-2007, 02:06 PM
Steven could be the l337 H@<hidden> that he is and hook up the registration form to use paypal api :icon_pist

1996 328ti
01-25-2007, 09:00 PM
Steven could be the l337 H@<hidden> that he is and hook up the registration form to use paypal api :icon_pistThe message board already works with PayPal. I won't be able to take any credit for that.

1996 328ti
02-03-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm glad someone else voted.
I thought of another way to do this.
You don't need a PayPal account to use PayPal.
You can use a credit card using PayPal's website.
Then people would need to copy their transaction id to their registration form.
Those who want to pay by check, can print and mail it in.

1996 328ti
02-08-2007, 01:41 PM
To those who don't trust PayPal, you don't need a PayPal account.
We can use their services to accept VISA, Mastercard, Amex and Discover.
To those who don't trust PayPal, do you trust anyone online?

ErikT
02-12-2007, 09:23 AM
My experience with paypal has been that if you have a verified account or pay through a bank draft/EFT there is no service charge on the transaction. Is this indeed true with the CCA account?

If that is the case, maybe it would be prudent to increase awareness of how the administrative fees are applied? It may encourage frequent users to create an account?

hoyabmw
02-12-2007, 12:47 PM
My experience with paypal has been that if you have a verified account or pay through a bank draft/EFT there is no service charge on the transaction. Is this indeed true with the CCA account?

If that is the case, maybe it would be prudent to increase awareness of how the administrative fees are applied? It may encourage frequent users to create an account?

Nope. That's true for personal accounts that only accept small amounts of money. Business accounts (needed to take more that a couple hundred) charge fees no matter what the transaction's funding source is.

1996 328ti
02-12-2007, 01:01 PM
I believe it's 2.9&#37; plus 0.30/transaction fee to the payee.
I don't think the payer pays any fees.
Those fees are refunded to the payee when making a refund.

1996 328ti
02-15-2007, 07:28 AM
How are people going to feel having their credit card charged 2 months before a school? Checks are not cashed until the school weekend. We can't hold charges the same way. Of course we will issue refunds to those who are not accepted as soon as possible.

ChosenGSR
02-15-2007, 12:55 PM
I think pay pal payment requests should be sent out at time of approval, kind of like the checks being deposited.

1996 328ti
02-15-2007, 01:07 PM
I think pay pal payment requests should be sent out at time of approval, kind of like the checks being deposited.
That creates double work for everyone.
Once people are accepted the instructor assignments are made.
If we had to wait for people to make their payments, that would slow things up. When someone decides not to pay their slot needs to go to someone else. If that someone else has different experience, that causes a problem. If someone didn't want their card to be charged, they would need to send a check.

ChosenGSR
02-15-2007, 06:19 PM
That creates double work for everyone.
Once people are accepted the instructor assignments are made.
If we had to wait for people to make their payments, that would slow things up. When someone decides not to pay their slot needs to go to someone else. If that someone else has different experience, that causes a problem. If someone didn't want their card to be charged, they would need to send a check.

I was thinking about this as well, however a check is just a piece of paper and could just as easy bounce and you end up with the same issues. Just a thought but maybe institute a policy that says you have to pay within 2-3 days of acceptance notification, which is what it would take for the check to clear/bounce. This will give everyone enough time to pay as well as enough time to reassign someone if they didn't pay. I am not sure how the board is integrated with PayPal, but I assume there is functionality to blast email addresses with PayPal requests with a click of a button.

1996 328ti
02-15-2007, 07:28 PM
Doug as everyone's email addresses who registered.
Checks do occasionally bounce. Usually it's because we held onto the check so long that people forget that the account was closed.
I don't mind making more work for myself.
I can't ask the same of volunteers.
It's clear this needs more thought.

Timothy Sullivan
02-26-2007, 03:38 PM
I am all for quicker notification for the driving schools. I hate to bother anyone to see if my registration was received. I have all kinds of trouble receiving other peoples mail in my mailbox. I just do not trust USPS to get it right.

1996 328ti
02-26-2007, 03:51 PM
I am all for quicker notification for the driving schools. I hate to bother anyone to see if my registration was received. I have all kinds of trouble receiving other peoples mail in my mailbox. I just do not trust USPS to get it right.
We really can't get notifications out much quicker. Sorry.

Timothy Sullivan
02-26-2007, 04:43 PM
I am not so worried about the notification that you are in the course just whether the registrar received my paperwork. I figure if I get it postmarked on the first day I have done everything I can do. I know that you guys will do your best to have as many instructors as you can.

Again I do appreciate the time that everyone invests in organizing these. Hopefully I will get in.

odortiz
03-03-2007, 08:57 AM
i'd rather send in the checks since we have to mail papers anyway. i'm not a fan of paying fees if i don't have to. i know i won't pay a fee, but a fee will be taken out from the recipient. all these fees add up to money that could be used in the club or event. i do have a paypal acct.