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spric116
07-05-2006, 07:20 AM
I was wondering about the Lotus Elise. It is called a convertible, but I think it is really just a removable top, isn't it? Is it ok only with the hard top on? Or not allowed at NCC driving schools at all?

1996 328ti
07-05-2006, 07:27 AM
I was wondering about the Lotus Elise. It is called a convertible, but I think it is really just a removable top, isn't it? Is it ok only with the hard top on? Or not allowed at NCC driving schools at all?
They are not accepted in NCC schools, sorry. Not even with the hardtop.
Being that they are not considered convertibles and would not require a roll bar,
they are allowed in other chapters. Some organizations require the hardtop.

TMB_540i
07-05-2006, 04:22 PM
Doh, Guess I will have to request a refund on my deposit from my Lotus dealership!

1996 328ti
07-05-2006, 06:31 PM
Doh, Guess I will have to request a refund on my deposit from my Lotus dealership!That wouldn't stop me. NCC is not the only game in town. ;)

spric116
07-06-2006, 06:56 AM
Nope. Won't stop me either. It is unfortunate though. Oh well.

JLee
07-08-2006, 08:29 AM
just wondering if you guys are worried about damaging an elise on the track..I came extremely close to getting one but I saw some pictures of various elises with damage that ordinarily I would think was minor, actually totaled the elise given the cost to replace the fiberglass shell pieces.

So i just pictured a runoff where I damaged the fiberglass costing me $10,000 and I backed off..

Its a great car though, Spric116 did you find one locally ? used ?

Jeff

spric116
07-10-2006, 06:49 AM
I have been talking with the only dealer in the area i know of, Criswell in Gaithersburg. I went and drove one on saturday and am pretty much sold, just have make sure they can get the colors I want.

As far as damaging it, I have been a little worried about damaging my car anytime i have been on the track. I hadn't considered the potential for much higher repair costs on the elise, but I don't think that should be a factor in buying a car like this. It is quite possibly the most impractical (non-practical?) car in the world, but is so fun to drive.

woodym3
07-10-2006, 05:21 PM
It is quite possibly the most impractical (non-practical?) car in the world, but is so fun to drive.
Ray Korman, sometimes known as "Mr. BMW", has an Elise and was driving it at the Tarheel school at VIR this past weekend. I was talking to him about the car and he told me that he and his wife recently drove it from Greensboro, NC to Lime Rock, Connecticut to participate in a Club Race (not in the Elise), then drove on to Rochester, NY to visit relatives, and then back to Greensboro. He said it was great, and he's not a young as I am. Ray also has several "practical" BMW sedans he could have used.

mlytle
07-10-2006, 07:38 PM
just wondering if you guys are worried about damaging an elise on the track..I came extremely close to getting one but I saw some pictures of various elises with damage that ordinarily I would think was minor, actually totaled the elise given the cost to replace the fiberglass shell pieces.

So i just pictured a runoff where I damaged the fiberglass costing me $10,000 and I backed off..

Its a great car though, Spric116 did you find one locally ? used ?

Jeff

why else would you get one other than to track it? that is what it was designed for.....the capabilities are wasted on the street!

1996 328ti
07-10-2006, 07:49 PM
Ray Korman, sometimes known as "Mr. BMW", has an Elise and was driving it at the Tarheel school at VIR this past weekend. I was talking to him about the car and he told me that he and his wife recently drove it from Greensboro, NC to Lime Rock, Connecticut to participate in a Club Race (not in the Elise), then drove on to Rochester, NY to visit relatives, and then back to Greensboro. He said it was great, and he's not a young as I am. Ray also has several "practical" BMW sedans he could have used.He must travel very light or buy clothes along the way.

spric116
07-11-2006, 06:42 AM
Well, with a passenger in the Elise, there is room for maybe two small backpacks, and nothing else. There is as much storage space on my motorcycle with the roll bag on. Without a passenger, you could put stuff in the front seat i guess, but still not much room. That being said, it would be fun for a kind of long trip, but I would keep it to day trips, where you end up where you started.

woodym3
07-11-2006, 01:29 PM
And Elises have participated in the 8-day long One Lap of America without trailers.

With regards to the NCC policy on driver schools, I think the decision was based on the unknown strength of the Targa top.

mOlson
07-12-2006, 08:57 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks excluding a strong monocoque car with crush zones, an integral rollbar and a lengthy safe track day record (overseas included of course) is a bit odd?

AlfaEric
07-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks excluding a strong monocoque car with crush zones, an integral rollbar and a lengthy safe track day record (overseas included of course) is a bit odd?
I think it's simply easier to make a general rule like 'no convertibles' rather than creating a list of vehicles we will and won't allow... Not to mention dealing with people constantly requesting certain cars get added to the list.

---Eric

mOlson
07-12-2006, 10:30 AM
I can understand that point of view but am still disappointed to see it applied to arguably the most focused sports car the States have seen in many years. Wonder if the Exige will be allowed even though they are structually identical with respect to the top bits.

Scotty
07-12-2006, 04:25 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks excluding a strong monocoque car with crush zones, an integral rollbar and a lengthy safe track day record (overseas included of course) is a bit odd?

Laws and lawyers. As Bernie Ecclestone recently said, "What do we get from America? Aggravation, that's about all. If you say 'good morning' over there and it's five past 12, you end up with a lawsuit." That's a pretty jaundiced view of things, but probably justified in the world of motorsport.