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wduvall
06-27-2005, 04:14 PM
Since this is the first time we will run on the Shenandoah course and since there are multiple configurations of the track do we know which track configuration we will be using? Will we be running both directions?

http://www.nccbmwcca.org/content/images/1_58_tb3n0mZBPV-538x.jpg

AG
06-27-2005, 04:50 PM
Actually, the track looks more like this now:
http://www.emraracing.org/image/Shenandoah_track.jpg

However, the bridge straight going into the karrousel still exists, so you have the option of using the karrousel or skipping it via the bus stop.

I ran the Shenandoah back in April with the NJ chapter and we used the full configuration in CCW direction.

SharkD
06-27-2005, 05:20 PM
Is the turn at flag station #8 as nasty as it looks on the "new" map?

http://www.emraracing.org/image/Shenandoah_track.jpg

AG
06-27-2005, 05:28 PM
Is the turn at flag station #8 as nasty as it looks on the "new" map?



Are you referring to taking that turn while coming from the bus stop?

1996 328ti
06-27-2005, 07:01 PM
July 20th will be an Instructor Orientation day for our instructors on the Shenandoah. They will discuss it afterwards.

wduvall
06-28-2005, 11:05 AM
SharkD,
Thanks for the updated track map.

1996 328ti,
I'll watch this thread for the final decision after July 20th if you will post the update here.

1996 328ti
07-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Registration ends July 15 for the August school.

wduvall
07-25-2005, 09:42 AM
...bump...

Any word on the track configuration?

woodym3
07-25-2005, 12:15 PM
The instructors had an orientation day last Wednesday. In the morning we ran the full course including the pit straight and the very tight "range esse".
In the afternoon we used the cut-thru road to eliminate the pit straight and the "range straight", eliminating the tight esse.

There were many different opinions as to the best configuration(s) considering safety, teaching, and fun factors. Nothing is cast in stone yet, and it is possible that the configuration will vary from Saturday to Sunday. I can guarantee that whatever we use will be fun.

SharkD
07-29-2005, 11:08 AM
Just wondering if the confirmation emails have gone out? I hadn't noticed one, but I might have missed it in a recent deluge of spam.

Thanks.

1996 328ti
07-29-2005, 12:51 PM
I do not believe emails have gone out. There is a very good chance that anyone who registered will be in. There is a tech form on the website if you need one.

SMOODY
08-03-2005, 11:17 AM
E-Mails are out. I got my confirmation on Sunday. See you there. :icon_joy:

I guess I need to get those new brake pads on.

SharkD
08-03-2005, 02:20 PM
I guess I need to get those new brake pads on.

I hear that -- the E30's getting new Blues, Powerdiscs & calipers (don't have time to rebuild the current set, right now) up front and C1144's on the rears... In addition to Barry Brown's old Hankook R-Comps....

I really don't want my future SpecE30 car to end up like "Heidi (http://www.get-fast.net/bmw/driver/)":

http://www.get-fast.net/bmw/rip3.jpg

SMOODY
08-03-2005, 02:44 PM
I definetly do not want my nice e46 to end up looking like that. I am putting new Hawk HPS pads on and new ATE Super Blue fluild. That should be good enough to get through my first Driver School.

SharkD
08-03-2005, 03:09 PM
Nah, you'll be fine -- just take it at whatever speed you're comfortable with and don't worry about how fast anyone else is taking the track (as last year's Chief Instructor, Miriam, used to say: "Leave your ego behind, when you leave your house for the track.")

Also, your E46 is going to have a much more neutral setup than my stripped-out track rat E30.

Congrats on taking the plunge.

Biggins
08-03-2005, 05:10 PM
That is Jon Felton's E30, correct? He runs all the NASA autoXs down near my college in Richmond. I did not know that he wrecked/totalled his E30. Did that happen at the Shenandoah Circuit?

I'll be working the corners for the first time to learn, to watch closely, and to keep everyone in check.

SharkD
08-04-2005, 12:03 AM
According to Jon's website, it happened on the Shenandoah in June. (Click the "heidi" link in my post above for more pics, including a great justification for footwell reinforcement.)

SMOODY
08-08-2005, 04:01 PM
Any recommendations of places near Manassas where I could get my car teched?

SharkD
08-08-2005, 04:18 PM
The only shop in Manassas on my list is AutoAdvatange, but I have no info on them, beyond location and shop rate...

If you find any additional shops or info on AutoAdvantage, let me know and I'll update my list.

http://www.dvsmith.net/bmw/dc_service_shops.html

getfast
08-09-2005, 10:38 AM
That is Jon Felton's E30, correct? He runs all the NASA autoXs down near my college in Richmond. I did not know that he wrecked/totalled his E30. Did that happen at the Shenandoah Circuit?

Yes, that was my car and it did happen at Shenandoah with NASA in June. Fifth lap of the first instructor session on Saturday. Mechanical failure... went to turn and the bitch went straight. Luckily I still got it turned enough to broadside the wall instead of head-on (it was the increasing radius right hander onto the "bridge straight" running counterclockwise, wide open in 3rd.)

Heidi is thoroughly bent underneath and mostly parted-out by now. Floorboard / firewall / pedal assembly bent, trans mounts sheared off, motor mounts sheared off, rear subframe tweaked, and more. Luckily her parts will live on... in a half-dozen other tracked E30s.

Shenandoah is a very fun track to drive, but there's not much room for error, not like VIR...

Good luck-

Jon
804.397.FAST
www.get-fast.net (http://www.get-fast.net)

Biggins
08-09-2005, 03:37 PM
Yes, that was my car and it did happen at Shenandoah with NASA in June. Fifth lap of the first instructor session on Saturday. Mechanical failure... went to turn and the bitch went straight. Luckily I still got it turned enough to broadside the wall instead of head-on (it was the increasing radius right hander onto the "bridge straight" running counterclockwise, wide open in 3rd.)

Heidi is thoroughly bent underneath and mostly parted-out by now. Floorboard / firewall / pedal assembly bent, trans mounts sheared off, motor mounts sheared off, rear subframe tweaked, and more. Luckily her parts will live on... in a half-dozen other tracked E30s.

Shenandoah is a very fun track to drive, but there's not much room for error, not like VIR...

Good luck-

Jon
804.397.FAST
www.get-fast.net (http://www.get-fast.net)

That's a shame to hear and I'm glad that you are ok. I'm sure you'll be able to find an adequate replacement if you have not already.

I get back to college in a month, but I was wondering how luck has been finding autoX sites in the Richmond area. It's a shame about the Cloverleaf site, as I was there when the guy went flying into the curb in the Volvo. As rough as that lot was, it was still one of my favorites.

Chris

getfast
08-09-2005, 04:46 PM
Thanks Chris! It's unfortunate but it happens, and I'll be back next season (probably in a late E36 of some flavor.)

As for autox sites around Richmond... click here:

http://www.autocross.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=937

Thanks again,

Jon

Biggins
08-09-2005, 05:55 PM
That is such bad news... I ran an event at Manchester with VMSC. Although I thought the lot was small and we did 3 laps of the lot during that autoX, it was still fun.

When I get back down there next month, I'll keep an eye out for locations. I really hope that sites can be found.

Chris

getfast
08-11-2005, 12:03 PM
It's all fun regardless, but NASA's known for big lots and fast courses so we're trying to maintain that theme. ;)

I'm checking out a tip this afternoon, supposedly some huge lot near the airport. We'll see how it turns out!

Thanks again and please hit me up when you get back to R'town-

Jon

1996 328ti
08-11-2005, 12:13 PM
Guys,
Drifting (pun intended) a little too far off topic. ;)
This *was* about the August Shenandoah driving school.

getfast
08-11-2005, 12:47 PM
Sorry sorry sorry! How about some in-car from Shenandoah to get things back on topic:

http://www.trackvision.net/videos/ShenandoahNASATestMay2005.wmv


Discuss. :icon_cool

Jon

woodym3
08-12-2005, 08:51 PM
Great on-screen data. What does a system like that go for and does it work with a normal digital handycam?

SharkD
08-22-2005, 11:00 AM
As for the track configuration, despite the issues (paving quality/camber/lack of curbing) on the new alternate straight through the pistol grip, eliminating turns 5 & 6 made a huge, positive difference on the second day.

4WDrift
08-22-2005, 08:55 PM
Yeah, I liked the straight better, the chicane is really tight and it flowed better just coming around and hitting the right-straight-right.Going to do it again with Mazda and Porsche Schattenbaum. :biggrin:

Big thanks to Road Race Tech (http://www.roadracetech.com/), they finished the base repairs/upgrades to the ti on Fri. at 10 pm.!

Oh and it's fast too, makes a lot of noise. Schrick cam kit, injectors, HFM, cone, rebuilt head, ActiveAutowerke headers.

Funny, under 3500 in 5th, mpg actually goes up, 15 vs 10 mpg at WOT due to the freer breathing :p , but over 4000 it plummets. :o

SharkD
08-23-2005, 01:48 AM
I found that I was getting better mileage on the Shenandoah vs. VIR & the Jeff. Then again, I was also only putting 55-60 miles on the clock each day, as opposed to 95+ on the other tracks -- Shenandoah is a slow track... thankfully. :D

woodym3
08-23-2005, 01:35 PM
Anybody have any estimates of the track length in the two configurations we ran this weekend?

SharkD
08-23-2005, 03:35 PM
I think Day 1 was 2.0 miles and Day 2 was 1.9 miles (or a little less)

SMOODY
08-23-2005, 08:48 PM
For those of you that were not there, I took a few pictures. They can be found here:

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AZt3DRi5ZNX-Q

PM me if you want the larger pictures.

This was my first DE and I had a blast. I can't wait to do it again. My instructor was great and the track was a lot of fun. :biggrin:

I would like to thank all of the volunteers and instructors who helped to make this a great weekend.

SharkD
08-24-2005, 01:07 AM
Thanks Julia (and Steve)!

At speed, the E30 actually looks pretty good (with the motion blur):
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b5d602b3127cce98548a81e90700000017108AZt3DRi5ZNR